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    I think he is going to be someone in this league. He runs hard and upfield.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    if he keeps it up, i believe we wont have sammy next year

    instead of going out and signing the anual FA OLD rb, well have BJ...who does similar things

    if im not mistaken, fred was signed for 2 years....

    so next year it will be

    Maroney,
    FRed
    BJ
    Faulk

    it will be both faulk's and fred's last years in the NFL....we would prob draft a rb in 2 years
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Hes a nice reserve no question.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    I was more happy with him executing his blocking assigments. He picked them all up. Vast improvement.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    We want Faulk to last as long as possible. There is just no other player that does what he does. He is truly a 3rd down specialist.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Played 2 more snaps than LoMo, had close to 10 YPC average, had some very nice blocks and was in on the flea-flicker. Say what you want, but they certainly have confidence in the kid and now he's getting his chances and maximizing them.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    You're taking "they have confidence in him" from them playing him in a 59-0 blow out? Maroney took the snaps when they still meant something.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Did you happen to watch the game? BJGE was in pretty early on. I get that you can't give the guy any respect but at least get a bit real, k?
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Not to mention they need to see what they have in BJGE should Morris be out for an extended period.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    I haven't exactly been high on the kid in the past, but he played awfully well yesterday. Granted, not until the blowout was well in hand, but I don't buy that it was all the weather and the Titans' D. The Titans were excellent against the run going into yesterday's game, and it apparently never occurred to the DC to go all-out against the pass (they never stopped single-covering Moss, which I guess explains how Brady got 5 TDs in the second quarter...).

    Maroney and BJGE both ran extremely well behind an offensive line that was plowing the way for them, which just suggests to me that it was the offensive line that worked out the kinks and got things turned around. Vollmer and Mankins were crushing guys out there.

    I wouldn't read anything into him getting more carries than Maroney, though- once the game was out of hand, Maroney came out simply because the Pats can't afford to lose him. When you only have 1 of your 3 feature RBs left, you're not going to waste him in blowout wins like that. BJGE was there to pick up the remaining carries, but he showed an awful lot in doing it well.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    The kid has been nothing but impressive his entire stint here. I think he deserves more playing time. I'm gald to see that he seems to be making the 45 man roster each week now. If that guy who showed up wearing the #39 jersey yesterday keeps playing that way, then the Pats have something with the dredlock duo.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Hey, the way Faulk ran yesterday on that TD, he looked like has has atleast couple of more years under his belt if not more !
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Big fan of the kid. I've never seen him really have a bad game. He's always trying his best.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    This is true. BJGE recorded his first carry on the first drive in the second quarter, when it was 10-0. That was after workhorsing Maroney for the first 2 possessions, though, so it seems like that's where the next RB in the rotation would step in anyways, and with Morris out that was BJGE. After that they went back and forth until well into the third quarter, at least.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    First it was--"he'll never, EVER make the 53 man squad. We don't need him on this team, there's no way he's making the team."

    Then it was--"Well, even though he made the team, he'll ALWAYS be on the inactive list." Yet, come week 2 he's active on gameday, and plays on ST.

    Then it was--"Well, he may be active from time to time, but he'll never see any gameday action." (like no one has watched NFL football before, and they don't realize that they'll be injuries in the first 6 games probably:rolleyes:)

    Now it's--"Even though the first 3 things were wrong, all he did was play alright I guess. It was only some light mop-up duty."

    BJGE will NEVER get any respect on this forum, he'll always be considered just a JAG who "we could easily replace if we had too." Some of us get the feeling Belichick likes him a lot, he's obviously that kind of overachiever who BB really gives credit to. He has value on special teams, blocks and chips well, has downhill running capability, and does run hard. I have no idea why someone who plays on "our team" is so disliked, etc. You actually hear that he's overrated, etc, but in the old days if we had a no-name guy come off the bench and do well, he'd be a fan favorite. Hell, even if he just didn't fumble in the old days he would've been respected for doing his job off the bench, etc. I just don't really get it, and I never have. But I'm also not trying to start a major discussion either. Just get used to it.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Agreed.

    Faulk hasn't really taken the pounding that most players in the league have over the course of their careers. Wouldn't be surprised to see him play until he was 35 or 36. He's just so reliable and picks up blocks so well that even when he slows down with age, he can still do the things a third down back needs to do.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Yep, that's the progression. You nailed it.

    All I know is me and a buddy were in the living room screaming "Benny!!" every time he got the ball. He is no JAG and someday even the most cynical people here is going to have to give him some due.


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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    I was surprised when he made the 53, but once he did it wasn't a huge leap that he was gameday active as a STer. Nobody really said that he wouldn't be active as a STer, IIRC- just that he wouldn't be seeing any carries at RB unless there were a lot of injuries.

    That turned out to be correct. It wasn't until 2 of our top 3 RBs went down that BJGE saw any carries. That's not a knock on him- there are 3 talented, proven RBs ahead of him on the roster (plus Faulk, but I tend to think of him as being in a separate position outside of the standard RB rotation).

    That's what he is, and that's good. RB depth is a great commodity to have. Most of us that were 'not giving him any credit', though, were largely reacting to widespread posts about how he was apparently going to supplant Maroney and Morris on the depth chart, which made no sense on any level. Clearly Belichick liked him more than I thought, since I didn't have him making the 53, but getting carries as a backup RB when 2 of the top 3 RBs are injured isn't exactly the slam-dunk that you seem to think it is. He's the #5 RB, same as he was when the season opened.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Nothing but impressive? He was good yesterday, but he had 3.7 ypc last year against terrible rush defenses.
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    If Green Ellis can improve on ST, I think he will take Morris's roster spot.

    It is all about increasing his versatility and thus his value to the team.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Its called fear. The Maroney ball washers are afraid of BJGE getting more time as this would lend even more credence to the fact that Maroney has rarely, if ever, been able to provide a sustained running attack across 4 quarters, never mind a string of games.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Yeah, that's a fair enough assessment. I guess it sucks that most of the discussions were around Maroney's value/place in the rotation etc. There were some that even thought Faulk would be an every down back even before Green-Ellis hit the field, but I do see him seperate also. If we can keep him somewhat fresh then he can hold that 3rd down position for another couple of yrs.

    I think BJGE could end up being a solid #2 or #3 back--not including Faulk and his specialty role of course.

    You are right, most of the hate was centered around the LoMo discussions, and how someone would take over his #1 role. I don't think that'll ever happen, but I certainly think he's earned his spot.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    You are certainly right about the bad rush defenses, and I know you are super high on that 3.7 ypc average, as you've reminded us dozens of times. And you are right, it does add credibility to the whole discussion, but in some ways it's a bit overrated too.

    Hall of Famer John Riggins had a 3.9 ypc IIRC. It certainly wasn't more than 4 if rounded up. That 3.7 stat is a bit played out, although I can somewhat understand why you use it--as I said.

    For someone who was an UDFA, and in their 1st yr last yr, 3.7 wasn't as horrible as some would believe. He picked up the offense, something more than a long teneured pro-bowler vet could do, although at another position. He has added value on ST and his blocking assignments--not many major mistakes either.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    What's your point? How is 3.7 YPC relevant to what he is doing now?
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Ladanian Tomlinson averaged 3.6 ypc his first season. He's already had his 100 yard, 20+ carry game in his rookie season. I would feel confident handing BJGE the rock 20 times a game if necessary.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Are you serioulsly trying to show a parallel b/t/w Tomlinson's rookie year and BJGE?
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    For an undrafted rookie Free Agent signing? Did you watch that Buffalo game when he was the only healthy RB? 26 carries 105 yards and a touchdown. No fumbles in his career.

    The kid runs the ball north and south, runs hard, and plays special teams. If both Morris and Taylor are out for any long period of time. I think he and Maroney (more hopefully the one who should up yesterday) can more than handle the load.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Hall of Famer John Riggins played in a different NFL. He's irrelevant.

    The 3.7 ypc is played out? What stat do you want to use? There aren't any that say that BJGE was anything other than replacement level last year.
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    I am still not that impressed yet. Then again, I am not all that impressed with Maroney's performance either (and I am a big Maroney defender). Nor all that concerned that the Pats' run defense was gashed a lot of the game. The tackling on running plays on both sides of the ball was attrocious and I attribute that to the slickness of the field.

    Before we get too excited about either RB, lets see either one of the two perform well against a good defense that isn't mailing it in in decent weather conditions.
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    Re: Law Firm (BJGE) ran pretty well yesterday too.

    Him being an UDRFA doesn't have any relevance when talking about his talent.
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