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  1. AzorianPats

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    Ukpat, speaking for myself, my issues is not growing the game on in international level. I hope the game does grow serious enough in other countries where their can be international tournaments.

    My issue is with having a London franchise, in an American sports league. It's just unheard of and makes zero sense. You don't see or hear MLS teams trying to join the EPL or Bundesliga. Or Swedish or Finnish hockey teams joining the NHL.

    If the game is growing in the UK, then have an all British/European league. Play that league in the spring/summer months and the NFL can continue the Wembley games 2-3 times a year.
     
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    The best thing that could happen for the NFL is for it to go international and succeed....period.

    Regardless of whether people think it could succeed or not, it would be the best thing. If they lose 10% of the US audience but gain 5% of the world audience, they would be ecstatic.

    Wake up. They don't care about your personal preferences. They care about the collective preferences because they care about revenue..plain and simple. That's why they care about their image.

    Like it or not, that's the truth and that's why the NFL wants to expand.
     
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    My apology, I went out and enjoyed my sunday off instead of sitting inside on the computer.

    I have been to about a dozen games and many more sporting events and I expected loud noise both fan and franchise generated and never ever considered the noise as any kind of issue, and I would suggest that anyone who does shouldn't be going to those events.
     
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    So is the new London team going to be part of the AMERICAN football conference or the NATIONAL football conference? They don't seem to fit either category...
     
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    Well, I've been beating the drum that the most likely destination for them is our very own AFC East, especially if it is Jacksonville who makes the move.
     
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    Baseball used to be America's pastime when football was small time. In the last 40 years, has the sport of football improved more than baseball? I think that's a yes. But I don't think that accounts for the big swing in popularity.

    Football is on top now largely because baseball pressed the self-destruct button three times, in non-salary cap free agency, drawn out player strikes, and the flagrantly ignored roid era they turned a blind eye to to win back eyeballs after the strike.

    Soccer will never overtake football, that's true, if everything continues as it is. But if the NFL presses the self-destruct button several times? If the concussion issue becomes extreme, if the players and owners can't collectively bargain, and so on? MLS is growing in popularity, people are familiar with the sport, and they have their playoffs in late fall. In a decade they might be in better position than baseball to profit if the NFL ever shoots itself.
     
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    I'm one of them.
     
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    You do the math. For 7 years it was all Canadian. That's not "essentially" international, although it was a nice try.
     
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    No baseball is shrinking because the games are boring, often last three hours and more kids are going with other sports, including lacrosse, which directly competes with it, and sports like soccer and basketball, which can be played year round. I don't think the strikes helped, but I don't think they hurt it as much as some might think.
     
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    So you are 100 years old? I find that really hard to believe.
     
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    As I posted here a couple of days ago, I'm 402. Doubt me at your peril.
     
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    I am sorry but your whole line of reasoning in this is kind of dumb. No one really cares that in 1920 there were 4 canadian teams that started a league that ended up morphing into the NHL. They were playing hockey in the US at that time too, it just so happens that the succesfull teams were started in Canada. It is more that Canadians have one sport that they internationally excell at, hockey, and they get upset that they have a difficult team supporting professional teams in some of their cities, where in places like Boston and Chicago, and New York we don't.
     
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    Of course you disagree. It's right in line with the current thinking that nothing ever really happened, or certainly mattered, before I was born or started following sports. Be comforted, you're not alone. You're mistaken, misguided and self-absorbed, but you're not alone.
     
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    Boy your logic is simply impeccable. How could anyone possibly argue with you based upon the fact you are making things up!! And if we want to start calling people names, you will be reported, done.
     
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    I agree. It has been 20 years since the most recent baseball strike, I think fans are over it. Hell, anyone under the age of 25 doesn't even remember it.

    Baseball is shrinking because the games have become interminable. Too many delays, pitchers taking forever to deliver the ball, batter stepping out of the box, etc.
     
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    Umm..... There's a reason that the group meant by the "original six" contains American teams. I'll leave it at that, since you don't seem to know what you're talking about, yet you seem to have chatted with all 5000+ people who are old enough to have been around for the first year.
     
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    Jeez, you must have been really popular on the playground in 5th grade. Just to be clear, what name did I call you?
     
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    You'll leave it at that because you were proven mistaken by historical fact. By your calculation, America's involvement in World War began in 1948.
     
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    I wasn't proven mistaken, at all. You originally tried to ignore that I'd noted "essentially". Since that didn't work, you're now going to try to argue with me about what "essentially" means in this instance. That's awesome comedy, but ultimately meaningless, as you know but choose to ignore. Meanwhile, the "Original Six" continues on, while teams like the Hamilton Tigers and Montreal Wanderers were lost to history.

    But you go on and pretend that 3 team league was a going concern in 1918.
     
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    It was 4 Canadian teams and 1917 as I pointed out earlier and only you would attempt to revise history. You're the pretender in this case and you know it.
     

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