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Edelman isn't going to be walking around on the first floor with the old ladies and college students who think they're the hot **** betting the table limit of $100. He's going to be on the upper floors where table stakes are $50k, $100k and upwards.

And on those floors, there are "escort" services and "massage" services. Please don't tell me you think no such thing goes on?

Dude - thanks for telling me there could be prostitutes at a casino Do you think a professional athlete needs a casino to find a message parlor? Have you ever been to a city with more than 75k people? There's about one ever 5 exits on any interstate in this country.
 
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OT: They should allow spots betting in all casinos..if i can go and spend all my $$ at the tables..i should be able to sports bet. I do anyways on bodog..it's illegal..but i get the checks and it's legit to me. People do illegal anyways..why not give the economy some more $$
 
In the backasswards state of RI, we have two really crappy slot parlors that the state relies on to balance their budget. Over the years our local tribe, Narragansetts, have tried to establish a first class casino... but have run into problems on the ballot with the christian folks.

Now this in either Foxboro or SE Mass, just another nail in our coffin..
 
Synergy - That would be the key to Kraft's concept. What else do gamblers like to do besides eat drink and spend their money. They like to shop. More people in the are means more revenue for Patriot Place. Business wise it makes a lot of sense.

Personally, if they had poker, I'd love to see a place where I could play that's 15 minutes away rather than and hour and 15 minutes, but without a massive traffic restructure, I can't see how it could be done logistically.

In my dream world the stadium would be in South Boston, along side the new Fenway park, and put the casino on one of the harbor islands.....or in Holyoke. ;)
 
And on those floors, there are "escort" services and "massage" services. Please don't tell me you think no such thing goes on?

Could you please be specific about which casinos and which exact floor #s offer these features? Thanks!
 
More info from Boston.com...

A view from P10 of the casino site and an indian warning...

Kraft-Wynn casino deal could reshuffle the gaming market - The Boston Globe

Foxboro folks aren't too pleased...

Foxborough residents say casino is too much - The Boston Globe

Casino Developer Wynn's background; apparently he and Bob Kraft are long time friends...

A Steve Wynn casino in Massachusetts? Developer of grand resorts eyes Foxborough - The Boston Globe

(Do not read if you're easily offended by political opinion counter to Blue MA)
 
My opinion of Kraft will go much lower if it really happens.

This is actually a detriment to the team itself because players go to the facility to study all the time, why put a huge distraction right across the street?

If you thought Edelman getting in trouble all the way up in Boston groping someone, that will be nothing when there's a giant source of trouble right across the street, waiting to suck up a player's cash, providing a huge number of chicks, especially the gold-digging type, and every form of entertainment you can think of, and $1 billion is going to provide plenty.

I don't have to talk about how much this will overwhelm the small town of Foxboro, as far as public service goes.

Looks like Mr. Kraft the businessman has trumped Mr. Kraft, the family man.

I agree. Thats exactly what will happen too.

You know what else? Look around a casino sometime, the folks who can least afford it are there gambling thinking theyll be Millionaires if they get lucky. Almost never will you see a Casino go out of business because they didnt take in enough money.
 
More info from Boston.com...

A view from P10 of the casino site and an indian warning...

Kraft-Wynn casino deal could reshuffle the gaming market - The Boston Globe

Foxboro folks aren't too pleased...

Foxborough residents say casino is too much - The Boston Globe

Casino Developer Wynn's background; apparently he and Bob Kraft are long time friends...

A Steve Wynn casino in Massachusetts? Developer of grand resorts eyes Foxborough - The Boston Globe

(Do not read if you're easily offended by political opinion counter to Blue MA)


Good articles. Foxboro residents definitely sound less than thrilled and how can you blame them really, especially with traffic being what it is already.
The Wynn hotels are absolutely gorgeous btw but still:
Many grumbled that the casino would intensify already daunting traffic that nearly traps people in their driveways on autumn Sundays. They worried it would bring a messy sprawl of cheap hotels and low-end restaurants, and spur an increase in crime.

Most of all, they feared a casino would turn their town, already strained by the Patriots’ presence, into an overrun spectacle, an altogether different place from the quaint bedroom community they call home.

“We’ve had enough,’’ resident Rachael Keefe said from her counter at the consignment shop, The New Trading Post. “Foxborough’s a little town, and we already do our share. Let’s keep the gambling where it is.’’
Foxborough residents say casino is too much - The Boston Globe

The ones who are for it cite jobs, revenues etc as positives but the people who live there say it's bad enough during Pats games in that many residents have to rearrange their whole schedules around the traffic as it is.

Wynn's facing some stiff competition as there's also a casino bid for Suffolk Downs
Under the state’s new casino law, which allows three full-fledged casinos across the state, a Foxborough proposal would vie for a license designated for Greater Boston. It would face strong competition from the owners of Suffolk Downs racetrack in East Boston, who unveiled plans for a resort-style casino last year.

But resistance here may pose a steeper hurdle.

The law requires that casinos win the approval of local voters, and many residents say the 17,000-strong town, at least for the moment, isn’t favorably inclined.

Ugh I dunno. Not directly related but it makes you wonder; there's another massive, gorgeous casino that's in the works to go up in Miami.
The scenario described in the Globe story appears to mirror a plan the Dolphins floated in the fall as Florida considers expanding its gambling laws to allow casino resorts. The team confirmed it was considering the possibility of leasing land near its stadium in Miami Gardens to a casino developer if Florida changes its gambling laws.

The National Football League prohibits teams from investing in gambling enterprises, but apparently league rules are silent on whether land could be leased to a casino, the Globe story said. Dolphins executives have said they believe the team’s parent company could rent land to a casino. Dolphins CEO Mike Dee said Friday the team continues to view Florida’s gambling debate with a “watchful eye.”
New England Patriots follow Miami Dolphins in casino chase - Business - MiamiHerald.com
 
Edelman isn't going to be walking around on the first floor with the old ladies and college students who think they're the hot **** betting the table limit of $100. He's going to be on the upper floors where table stakes are $50k, $100k and upwards.

And on those floors, there are "escort" services and "massage" services. Please don't tell me you think no such thing goes on?

The Casinos trip all over themselves catering to pro athletes because they know they have deep pockets. And, athletes eat this stuff up like theyre VIPs with everybody kissing their axx.

Kraft has lost his mind wanting this thing in Foxboro.
 
Dude - thanks for telling me there could be prostitutes at a casino Do you think a professional athlete needs a casino to find a message parlor? Have you ever been to a city with more than 75k people? There's about one ever 5 exits on any interstate in this country.

Is this something new at Patsfans?
 
I think casinos are a blight on our culture and economy - but if someone is going to build one I'd prefer it be someone like Kraft.
 
Dude - thanks for telling me there could be prostitutes at a casino Do you think a professional athlete needs a casino to find a message parlor? Have you ever been to a city with more than 75k people? There's about one ever 5 exits on any interstate in this country.

I think they use their phones to send messages.

It's easy to turn down a hooker on the street with a thick layer of mascara and bad teeth. But is it easy to turn down a high-class hooker you can afford, who is not only a knockout but very intelligent and knows how to play the mind game in getting you to empty your wallet, not only for her but also for the casino? There are also hired girls who aren't hookers but whose jobs it is to "cater" to the gamblers, e.g., get them to spend more, stay longer.

I'm just amused that some people think that nothing else goes on in casinos other than gambling. As the saying goes, vice attracts vice.

And as for finding one every five exits- as soon as a pro athlete enters one of those small seedy joints, he can expect to find his name in the papers the next day, one way or another- but once he enters a casino, that's the end of what anyone knows.

To quote Vegas's favorite saying: "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas."
 
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Could you please be specific about which casinos and which exact floor #s offer these features? Thanks!

The sad thing is that if you're a young athlete who's getting paid millions, you don't have to do a single thing. Those things will find their way to you.
 
I'm just amused that some people think that nothing else goes on in casinos other than gambling. As the saying goes, vice attracts vice.

I used to work with a guy who was a convicted felon who used to frequent the Casinos. He told me that the FBI used to follow him around when he went there sometimes.

Anyway, he was diagnosed with terminal cancer and before he passed, there was a party for him at a well known restaurant where I live. Quite a few folks rumored to be in organized crime or shady dealings were at the party. I wont mention any ethnic group, but they serve spaghetti and lasagna at this place and they claim to have invented chicken spedini. Who am I am to question?

And a few years back, there was a mysterious fire that nearly burned the building to the ground. Insurance money was collected and they built a spanking new place.
 
the reasoning is simple.......the only thing doing fairly well at patriot place is the movie theater......the rest of the place is dead......it was a morgue on black friday, and legacy place up RT1 has basically taken everything that might have gotten to patriot place from boston......the game traffic is a non-issue in the grand scheme because it really only happens 10 or so times a year out of 365 days.
 
I think its like Wolfpack said, the NFL would never allow an NFL owner to be connected to a Casino.

I havent been to every NFL stadium, but the only city that I can think of with a Casino in close proximity to an NFL stadium is New Orleans. I cannot fathom that the NFL would be pleased with one directly across the street from Gillette when all these years theyve tried to distance themselves from any sort of gambling period.
 
The sad thing is that if you're a young athlete who's getting paid millions, you don't have to do a single thing. Those things will find their way to you.

I do agree that it is not in the best interests of the young sudden millionaires to have another source of financial and other problems directly in their faces. I'm one to whom gambling has zero appeal but I'm also not a risk defying pro athlete. As to nearby temptations let me say that there were certain "Gentelman's Clubs" nearby Smithfield RI training camp say in Johnstone RI where after camp the younger Pats players often frequented. But I don't think you could get into real problems there although I may have fallen off the pumpkin truck in this instance.

As a fan I have a real problem in a massive on site parking lot vanishing and even more game day traffic unless Kraft pulls a 3 pointer and gets state funded (you pay for it) access improvements.
 
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isnt there a casino very close to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh?

Kraft is a smart businessman. Im sure this "land lease" has been privately vetted with the NFL. Notice the silence from the league on this matter.

Like him or not, Wynn runs a very good operation. Encore and Wynn in Las Vegas are top flight facilities - lots of security inside and hookers are quickly removed from the casino and bar areas. Encore and Wynn are great hotels and conference facilities, used by more and more businesses for their annual user groups, trade shows, national sales meetings, etc.

This whole thing was well planned: news dropped on a Friday afternoon, with the high school super bowls today and big Colts game tomorrow. If anyone thinks this hasnt been well planned and thought out, to include running it by NFL leadership then you are sadly mistaken. The Casino industry is leveraging the popularity of Bob Kraft to try and get the first casino built in Mass - for that, Kraft will be getting a nice annual annuity aka "lease payment" for his land across the street.

Look for a parking garage to be built next to the stadium to make up for any lost parking. This thing has been in the works for at least two years. Lets see if Krafty can beat down Mumbles Menino who wants Suffolk Downs to be the local casino site...
 
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Isn't this all moot?

According to the terms of the law no casino can be built in Foxboro unless a majority votes for it in a town-wide election.

So if people are really as against it as the article makes it out to be it's not gonna happen.
 
FYI:I can walk to Suffolk Downs racetrack from my apt in Revere.There are two T stations(Beachmont and Suffolk Downs) to service a casino.If you think that a powerfull,liberal,democrat mayor,like Tom Menino,is going to allow Bob Kraft to steal the casino and build it in Foxboro.....you're dreaming.

Money talks,but political power,talks even louder.Personally,I'm against casinos....they just make the poor,poorer.However,the taxes and infrastruchure improvements will prove to be the deciding factor for the myriad of corrupt Boston pols.

Like the attempted South Boston stadium fiasco,this will be...as Howie Carr put it:"whiney-ass jew"....part redux.....sorry Bob,but this is the big-boy league.....and you 'aint it:bricks:
 
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