Kraft in Talks to Build Casino in Foxboro

[Garbanza]

Does the new casino law allow it at the new casinos, though?

No. I imagine much like every casino outside of Vegas, sports betting is illegal.

 

[signbabybrady]

You want the benefits, but not the associated cost? I've never heard that one before.

Haha well yes.

But in this case I think it is fair. Why should hard working mass money go to CT when it could stay here?


Personally I think it should go somewhere that could use the boost too. Foxboro is fine but there are towns/cities in Mass that could really use the boost that a casino could bring.

 

[condon84]

No, he's not. His point is accurate. These guys can have lives, yes, and they will go out to the clubs or do whatever it is they want to do.

But the point is, when they go out, they go OUT.

Outside of Foxboro, outside of Gillette Stadium. They don't walk across the street.

Boston, Providence, or wherever it is they party is not walking distance from where they work. Access to it is LIMITED. Partying every night of the week and maintaining employment would not be feasible.

With a casino next to Gillette, access would not be limited.

Partying every night of the week would be feasible.

Read that Pearlman book on the Cowboys if you think too much partying amongst an NFL team can't have repercussions.

Idiots will do idiot things irrespective of the distance he has to travel. Guys who do the right thing will do the right thing regardless of the proximity of temptations around him.

The casino will affect the locals' commute more than anything here.

 

[BlueThunder]

I want a job there...ya know the old geezer that can hardly stay awake and he's security...if you work there, you can't gamble there.....

It's either that or the Walmart greeter job....

 

[E1Downey]

Oh this is so sweet! As a raging gambling junkie who is also deeply addicted to the patriots what more could I ask for???

Right after I enjoy a good old fashioned beat down given from the patriots to whomever they play, I plan on bringing the money my mother in law left my kids for college across the street and tripling it!!!!

No worries if it doesn't work out the first try, I'm sure I can figure out how to use the deed to my house as collateral and win it all back tenfold!

I can already feel the rush of watching the cards flip, the slots turning, and everyone's favorite wheel spinning! Woohoo! Can't wait, my future just got brighter, ill be a rich man after this joint opens!

 

[serifyn]

Fix the Parking and Traffic problems Bob.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

the traffic problems will never be fixed..that's the problem with a stadium in the middle of nowhere with one road in and one road out...get use to it..it will never be fixed


Instead of tailgating now i can gamble..yes :rocker:

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Traffic could be greatly alleviated were they to build an I95 interchange right behind the stadium. Using P10 or whatever to build a casino, hotel, etc. without doing something like I proposed will make parking and game exit horrendous.

 

[Patsfan1102]

Everything there is amazing but I wish it was JUST a football stadium

 

[Holy Diver]

"Gambling is illegal at Bushwood sir and I never slice... "

-Judge Smails

Gambling is illegal at bushwood sir and I never slice... - YouTube

 

[FCB02062]

do you realize the amount of palm greasing that's going to have to happen in Foxboro and Walpole if Kraft wants to get this done? I actually hope it happens - it'll give me, living 15 minutes north of KRAFT city, something else to DO...kRAFTY, IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME....GO FOR IT, AND GOOD LUCK...I CAN SEE THE JACKPOT IN MY EYES NOW!!!!!

 

[fnordcircle]

No, he's not. His point is accurate. These guys can have lives, yes, and they will go out to the clubs or do whatever it is they want to do.

But the point is, when they go out, they go OUT.

Outside of Foxboro, outside of Gillette Stadium. They don't walk across the street.

Boston, Providence, or wherever it is they party is not walking distance from where they work. Access to it is LIMITED. Partying every night of the week and maintaining employment would not be feasible.

With a casino next to Gillette, access would not be limited.

Partying every night of the week would be feasible.

Read that Pearlman book on the Cowboys if you think too much partying amongst an NFL team can't have repercussions.

Hi. It's 2011, not 1911. Having something 45 miles closer to you does not make it suddenly a great risk of imbuing poor behavior.

The whole premise of this argument, that a slightly closer proximity makes it a huge looming threat to the team is laughable. If these guys wanted to gamble and party every night at a casino they would and could as things stand now. So the histrionics about this are ridiculous.

Mostly it's just more kneejerk BS by the crowd who can't wrap their heads around football players having lives. It's the same crew who somehow equate a 5 second post on twitter to not focusing enough on FOOTBAW.

 

[fnordcircle]

Of course all you see is old ladies and fat dudes because that's where you go to gamble with the $10 you have in your wallet.

There is a separate VIP portion of the casino for people who have serious money. A lot of what goes on in there isn't privy to people in general.

So are you trying to say the VIP areas are like international waters - unsupervised areas where there are monkey knife fights and Mexican sex-change doctors?

Because if so you're an idiot. The whole reason I brought up the scooter crowd is because of the ridiculous idea asserted in the OP that somehow casino gambling means everything turns into Mos Eisley within 2 weeks.

And of course most of those guys go out at night and live life like a rich young man, that's why 78% of them end up broke or bankrupt within two years of being out of the NFL.


Recession or no recession, many NFL, NBA and Major League - 03.23.09 - SI Vault

Amazingly, 78% of them do not have a casino next door, so what you're really pointing out here is a general problem with young men given too much money and lacking the maturity or support network to handle their finances properly. Which is a problem but hardly one you can pin on gambling.

 

[Patjew]

This is the most out of touch post I've ever read on these forums, and that's saying something.

Players have a personal life. They can legally go gamble a short drive away in Connecticut already - where is your outrage over there?

Casino gambling today isn't the seedy underbelly it used to be. I've been to Mohegan and Foxwoods dozens of times - it's full of old ladies and fat dudes on scooters playing video slots and southie bros with their chunky girlfriends at the blackjack tables. It's not a mobbed up den of iniquity with someone being thrown through a plate-glass window every 5 minutes.

Look, most of these guys go out at night and live life like you'd expect a rich young man to. If you think there is a significant increase in the amount of trouble they can get into playing slots and drinking vs. going to a club and drinking you're really poorly informed.

Leave my mom and me out of this.

Anyway, I don't care about a casino. I'm for it if it somehow eases traffic and parking with some additional road lanes.

 

[jbb9s]

That being said, my brother and I drunkenly walked from the Superdome to Harrahs in NO after the Saint put a beatdown on Brady and the boys the Monday after Thanskgiving a few years ago. SO yes, there is already a Casino in walking distance from an NFL stadium. BUT I'm pretty sure that Tom Benson, doesn't have an interst in Harrahs.

I don't think that AC Casinos have sports betting, (or at least I don't remember them having Sportsbooks). I know that in Vegas, they will not put a betting line on any game in Nevada. Everyone wants to put a pro team (of some kind) in Vegas, but it never happens.

Could you imagine the walk up traffic a Casino across the street from the stadium would get on game days? I'm sure the All Pro tailgate party would move right in......

No. I imagine much like every casino outside of Vegas, sports betting is illegal.

Sports betting is legal in Nevada, not just Vegas. Interestingly, prostitution is legal in all of Nevada except Vegas. It used to be illegal to run money on UNLV, etc. I am 99% confident that law is lifted being that Nevada was dogged by 4 to Washington at the MGM in a game that started 20 minutes ago.

the traffic problems will never be fixed..that's the problem with a stadium in the middle of nowhere with one road in and one road out...get use to it..it will never be fixed

It would seem like a better allocation of resources would be widen rt 2 by a lane which is congested 280 days a year. The cost of infrastructure is astronomical and the benefit in foxborough is severly limited (sorry to the Pats fans who voluntarily go to 8 games a year when a few hundred thousand people are idle on 128 for 280 days a year).

My opinion of Kraft will go much lower if it really happens.

This is actually a detriment to the team itself because players go to the facility to study all the time, why put a huge distraction right across the street?

If you thought Edelman getting in trouble all the way up in Boston groping someone, that will be nothing when there's a giant source of trouble right across the street, waiting to suck up a player's cash, providing a huge number of chicks, especially the gold-digging type, and every form of entertainment you can think of, and $1 billion is going to provide plenty.

I don't have to talk about how much this will overwhelm the small town of Foxboro, as far as public service goes.

Looks like Mr. Kraft the businessman has trumped Mr. Kraft, the family man.

Way off base here. Wanted to comment more but a few other people have already jumped on you so I'll let it rest. But I can assure you Edelman walking around a surburban casino with a bunch of elderly people cashing in their SS checks (for the 10% bonus of course) wouldn't really push him over the edge.

On an important side note, look up Steven Wynn's 10Q presser. Most hilarious, crude, outspoken executive out there. He makes Belichick's dress down of that reporter this week look like an amatuer.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Traffic could be greatly alleviated were they to build an I95 interchange right behind the stadium. Using P10 or whatever to build a casino, hotel, etc. without doing something like I proposed will make parking and game exit horrendous.

I come from 495....dont have to deal with the 95 mess..but i have the 495 mess

 

[Wolfpack]

Kraft in negotiations with Wynn for casino near Gillette - The Boston Globe

Bad parking problem will get worse unless Bobby gets the state (yes, you taxpayers) to pay for a new exit onto 95

Kraft would be leasing the land, not running the casino

I can't imagine the NFL letting this happen in a million years, even with the sad attempt at a technicality that Krafy is only "leasing the land."

This is a league that doesn't even allow vegas.com commercials during the Super Bowl because of the ties to gambling.

 

[Wolfpack]

Since I don't live there...

Is sports betting permitted in Massachusettes casinos?

If so, that would be interesting.

By federal law, sports betting is not allowed anywhere outside the state of Nevada.

(NOTE: There are a few state such as Delaware that are allowed a VERY limited and modified amount of sports betting, but nothing even remotely like what they have in Vegas).

 

[Patspsycho]

So are you trying to say the VIP areas are like international waters - unsupervised areas where there are monkey knife fights and Mexican sex-change doctors?

Because if so you're an idiot. The whole reason I brought up the scooter crowd is because of the ridiculous idea asserted in the OP that somehow casino gambling means everything turns into Mos Eisley within 2 weeks.



Amazingly, 78% of them do not have a casino next door, so what you're really pointing out here is a general problem with young men given too much money and lacking the maturity or support network to handle their finances properly. Which is a problem but hardly one you can pin on gambling.

Yes, there are private gambling rooms and suites (Foxwoods has the "High Rollers" club) so celebrities or pro sports players don't have to gamble alongside idiots like you.

78% of NFL players go broke within two years after they retire which more or less suggest that they aren't as disciplined as you think they are.

 

[Patspsycho]

But I can assure you Edelman walking around a surburban casino with a bunch of elderly people cashing in their SS checks (for the 10% bonus of course) wouldn't really push him over the edge.

Edelman isn't going to be walking around on the first floor with the old ladies and college students who think they're the hot **** betting the table limit of $100. He's going to be on the upper floors where table stakes are $50k, $100k and upwards.

And on those floors, there are "escort" services and "massage" services. Please don't tell me you think no such thing goes on?