Kraft in Talks to Build Casino in Foxboro

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  1. PatsWickedPissah

    PatsWickedPissah Supporter Supporter

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  2. Sparetire

    Sparetire Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    hey, if that money is somehow gets to charitiy - Go Bob.
  3. Patspsycho

    Patspsycho Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    My opinion of Kraft will go much lower if it really happens.

    This is actually a detriment to the team itself because players go to the facility to study all the time, why put a huge distraction right across the street?

    If you thought Edelman getting in trouble all the way up in Boston groping someone, that will be nothing when there's a giant source of trouble right across the street, waiting to suck up a player's cash, providing a huge number of chicks, especially the gold-digging type, and every form of entertainment you can think of, and $1 billion is going to provide plenty.

    I don't have to talk about how much this will overwhelm the small town of Foxboro, as far as public service goes.

    Looks like Mr. Kraft the businessman has trumped Mr. Kraft, the family man.
  4. fnordcircle

    fnordcircle brady plz Supporter

    This is the most out of touch post I've ever read on these forums, and that's saying something.

    Players have a personal life. They can legally go gamble a short drive away in Connecticut already - where is your outrage over there?

    Casino gambling today isn't the seedy underbelly it used to be. I've been to Mohegan and Foxwoods dozens of times - it's full of old ladies and fat dudes on scooters playing video slots and southie bros with their chunky girlfriends at the blackjack tables. It's not a mobbed up den of iniquity with someone being thrown through a plate-glass window every 5 minutes.

    Look, most of these guys go out at night and live life like you'd expect a rich young man to. If you think there is a significant increase in the amount of trouble they can get into playing slots and drinking vs. going to a club and drinking you're really poorly informed.
  5. JackBauer

    JackBauer Pro Bowl Player

    Eh. Don't really care much about this, either way.
  6. Tunescribe

    Tunescribe Supporter Supporter

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    I doubt players who don't already gamble at nearby spots like Foxwoods would be affected. Besides, the league's admonitions are pretty clear. And 20,000 jobs (8,000 permanent) is nothing to sneeze at.
  7. Peachhead

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    I imagine the NFL will have an opinion on the matter too. They like to keep football and anything to do with gambling as far apart as possible. And I don't necessarily mean physically apart. Gambling often attracts organized crime and all sorts of other shady stuff. It's a big reason why Vegas will probably never get an NFL team.

    Even if Kraft or anyone in the family isn't involved in day-to-day operations at a casino. An owner of a professional football team being the landlord to a casino (and therefore having a vested interest in it's business) looks bad. Real bad.
  8. rlcarr

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    Well, they could do it like the Rt 1 improvements were done -- the state pays upfront but then gets paid back by Kraft and/or the casino.

    (Standing firm to prevent the state from getting raped by the Patriots for a stadium, etc. like so many other places have been by their teams was probably the one good thing Finneran ever did.)


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    Since I don't live there...

    Is sports betting permitted in Massachusettes casinos?

    If so, that would be interesting.
  10. Garbanza

    Garbanza In the Starting Line-Up

    Have you ever been to a casino? They are nothing like what you see in the movies. Plus, you expect the players to what? Go to the casino everyday after practice? C'mon....

    I don't want it either, but not for the reasons you state.

    1) Because traffic doesn't suck as it is on game day, now they want it to suck everyday? So, the state will pony up the money for infrastructure for a casino that they will directlty profit from - makes sense....but way to be hypocritical disgusting pols of Massachusetts!

    2) Because traffic doesn't suck enough on game can suck everyday!

    3) Because traffic doesn't suck enough on games can suck everyday!
  11. Garbanza

    Garbanza In the Starting Line-Up

    No, sports betting is not permitted in Massachusetts unless you consider off-track races sporting events.
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  12. Pujo

    Pujo Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Does the new casino law allow it at the new casinos, though?
  13. FreeTedWilliams

    FreeTedWilliams I'm no Mona Lisa Vito.... Supporter

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    Yeah, I would hold off buying a seat at this blackjack table until the NFL weighs in. As others have said already, I highly doubt that the NFL wants one of their owners (especially one as visible as Bob Kraft) to be the landlord to a casino...

    That being said, my brother and I drunkenly walked from the Superdome to Harrahs in NO after the Saint put a beatdown on Brady and the boys the Monday after Thanskgiving a few years ago. SO yes, there is already a Casino in walking distance from an NFL stadium. BUT I'm pretty sure that Tom Benson, doesn't have an interst in Harrahs.

    I don't think that AC Casinos have sports betting, (or at least I don't remember them having Sportsbooks). I know that in Vegas, they will not put a betting line on any game in Nevada. Everyone wants to put a pro team (of some kind) in Vegas, but it never happens.

    Could you imagine the walk up traffic a Casino across the street from the stadium would get on game days? I'm sure the All Pro tailgate party would move right in......
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  14. RayClay

    RayClay Hall of Fame Poster

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    Are there enough Boston Redskins left to make this legal?
  15. signbabybrady

    signbabybrady Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    As someone who lived in Foxboro (parents still do, I am in Walpole now) I can say this would not be good. Other than the stadium Foxboro is a very quite town and thus would cut into that.

    I like to gamble but Foxwoods is about as close as I want the casinos to be.

    I like the idea of mass getting its gambling money to stay in mass just keep it out of my backyard.
  16. Pujo

    Pujo Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    You want the benefits, but not the associated cost? I've never heard that one before.
  17. Patspsycho

    Patspsycho Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Of course all you see is old ladies and fat dudes because that's where you go to gamble with the $10 you have in your wallet.

    There is a separate VIP portion of the casino for people who have serious money. A lot of what goes on in there isn't privy to people in general.

    And of course most of those guys go out at night and live life like a rich young man, that's why 78% of them end up broke or bankrupt within two years of being out of the NFL.

    Recession or no recession, many NFL, NBA and Major League - 03.23.09 - SI Vault
  18. BradyManny

    BradyManny Pro Bowl Player

    I agree - mainly the part about the players.

    Can anyone think of a single example where gambling and athletes mixed without crap hitting the fan soon thereafter?

    It would be like moving a junkie into a crack house. Athletes crave competition & high-stakes. Putting a casino next to their place of business is asking for trouble.
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  19. BradyManny

    BradyManny Pro Bowl Player

    No, he's not. His point is accurate. These guys can have lives, yes, and they will go out to the clubs or do whatever it is they want to do.

    But the point is, when they go out, they go OUT.

    Outside of Foxboro, outside of Gillette Stadium. They don't walk across the street.

    Boston, Providence, or wherever it is they party is not walking distance from where they work. Access to it is LIMITED. Partying every night of the week and maintaining employment would not be feasible.

    With a casino next to Gillette, access would not be limited.

    Partying every night of the week would be feasible.

    Read that Pearlman book on the Cowboys if you think too much partying amongst an NFL team can't have repercussions.
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  20. D-Money

    D-Money In the Starting Line-Up

    It would be nice if Bob put that effort in FA and trying to get another ring for TB.
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