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  1. Wildo7

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    ""At the end of the day we're talking about human rights," he said. "And people should understand that human rights and people's lives are in jeopardy. We're not talking about contracts here. We're not talking about money. We're talking about people's lives being lost and that means a lot more to me than some money or a contract." - Lebron in May

    "But for me to try to create awareness of the situation that's going on in Darfur and other places, for me, in the position I am, I should speak on it and I am gonna speak on it." - Lebron in May

    "we want to keep politics and basketball seperate" - Lebron Now

    "we aren't politicians or government officials." - Kobe Now

    Fucking disgusting. Nike has them bought and paid for. I'll be rooting against team USA basketball this summer now. No millionaire athlete given the right of free speech who ignores the responsibility to use it deserves my support.

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    good point...

    on a side note, can someone explain the black guy i thought i saw playing for team Russia the other day? how many black people are there in Russia? 7?
     
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    #24 Jersey

    I guess the first quotes make LeBron look a little hypocritical but I don't see why he should be more upset about Darfur than, say, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. Kobe and LeBron might be African American but they weren't born there.
     
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    WTF are you talking about?Why is sympathy for the plight of the people of Darfur have to be a black or white thing? I don't think we should intervene with our military, but there needs to be a level of concern (at least) to try to effect a change there in other ways. James is a complete hypocrit. He needs to grow a pair and use his position to make a statement.
     
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    I don't think it is a black or white thing. I'm just wondering why LeBron and Kobe are being singled out here and not Tom Brady. I already said that LeBron sounds somewhat hypocritical but the fact remains he owes this cause nothing more than Brady, Manning or, say, Dirk Nowitzki. That was my whole point.

    Maybe wildo7 made a typo when producing the "before" quotes but the way it's written they're both from LeBron. Nothing from Kobe.
     
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    Because Lebron and Koby are at the olympics and Tom Brady is not.
     
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    OK, I guess. I'm not sure why being at the Olympics makes you responsible for the whole world. I can only assume that one of those original quotes belongs to Kobe; if not I have no clue why he's even in the discussion.
     
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    I don't think Kobe or Lebron owe anyone anything. I love when people judge others for what they are NOT doing.

    In my opinion, the olympics are about sport, not about making a political statement. When the two track stars put their fists in the air during the '72(?) olympics, they were doing it for THEIR country and themselves. So that was appropriate.

    Otherwise, why shouldn't all athletes make political statements all the time? It's not like the Olympics garners more world-wide attention than the super bowl, the world series or the NBA championship.

    They're not cowards at all. They have a right to say or not say anything they please. I'm sick of America sticking our nose into everyone's problems. Let's fix our own first and let others clean their own house.
     
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    The Olympics is viewed as the biggest stage, especially since it is China. It can be likened to Jesse Owens in Berlin.

    What other way can you make a statement to China? You can impose sanctions because we import so much form them.

    Alot of this goes back to Ira Newble.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3398947

    I find two things pretty humorous though:

    1. Kobe Bryant being a social activist since he got off of the rape charge.

    2. These guys are getting pay days from Nike who openly exploits people in Indonesia and go to the point of slave labor with long work days, poor work conditions, and poor wages.

    I once heard that if you added up all the wages of all the Indonesian workers it would not come close to what LeBron makes in Nike advertising.
     
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    Oh you racist, homophobe, bigot... :D That "black" guy has a name you know. It's JR Holden. He's played in europe and russia his entire career. :p

    I'm kidding about the racist bit. I'm only being a dink cuz someone in here got on my arse for describing a guest on the Bill Maher show as "a black congresswoman from California". :D
     
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    I'm a little mixed on this. I for one, am extremely disappointed that a country with a record as dispicable as China's, would be awarded the priveledge of hosting the Olympics. If we should be pissed at anyone, it should be the IOC. That being said, I'm not sure if it's LeBron's, or Kobe's place to use the Olympics as a soapbox. I'm not saying they shouldn't, I'm merely looking at it from the perspective of what the event is intended for. Should everyone who has a political gripe use the games as their platform? Again, maybe they should, maybe they shouldn't.


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    #75 Jersey

    Let's take a little poll here:

    Who here, would jeopardize their 100+ million dollar enodresment contracts, to speak out about the conditions in Darfur?

    I know I wouldn't.


    Has there ever been a greater athelete than Jim Brown? (another Syracuse grad)

    Brown quit the NFL for Hollywood, and to this day speaks his mind, anyone want to guess how much money this (and his tendancy to slap his women around) has cost him over his career?

    Michael Jordon/Tiger Woods literally make BILLIONS, by "playing it safe", however they turn around with those Billions and do alot more for people through their various charities, than any good from "speaking out" would do either of them.
     
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    I have no further comment, this is a thread that could get a Patriotic Right Wing God Fearing Common Sense Neo Con Banned.
     
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    Another moronic, misinformed thread.. you need to know your facts here mr mod.. Jim Brown is very much involved with the community right now and has started a very effective amer-I-Can program.. for the misinformed BB is very much involved with this whole thing. amer-I-can focuses on personal responsibility.

    One night I spent time with Jim Brown and BB, and never forget when Jim Brown said if "Michael Jordan spent half as much time doing what BB does the world would be a much different place(sic)" BB is very close to Jim Brown and has verbalized this on many occasions.

    Did Jim Brown make some mistakes early on, yea.. but he has done a whole lot of good in the past 15 years.. he is very involved with incarcerated youth and at risk youth. This program is in some of our inner city high schools.

    here is the web site:

    http://www.amer-i-can.org/

     
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    It's a little funny that you bring this up on a New England Patriots fan site:

    I'm as big a supporter of the Kraft family as anyone, but isn't Mr. "The NE Pats represent the ideals of freedom, family and spirituality" hand in hand marketing in China? I fully remember reading that the Pats are in the vanguard of NFL teams heavily marketing in China, with organizational marketing trips and a Chinese web site.

    It's hard for me to write it, because I think the Kraft family is the best thing since sliced bread, but before one goes ahead with litmus tests for athletes who have no power in choosing the venue of their games, maybe this would be a better question to ask Mr. Kraft who consciously chose to do business in China?

    In the meantime, I don't remember anyone insinuating that Jesse Owens was a Nazi sympathizer for participating in the 1936 Berlin Games without protesting.
     
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    I would say Bill Russell was as great an athlete as Jim Brown, and he spoke (and speaks) his mind. Doesn't matter how much money it cost him, there are more important things in life then enough money that you can never spend. BTW, Brown quit because of a dumb-ass owner who got caught up counting his pennies and missed out on the big picture.
     
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    Here's a better question: why can't Darfur take care of itself?
     

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