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    ESPN posted 17-32 on their Insider section. Not asking for the whole list, but who does he have the Pats taking?
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    Mel Kipers Mock draft

    The biggest suprise I see is Tampa picking Josh Freeman at #19.

    Michael Oher slipping to #28 is also a suprise. I have seen him go in the top 5 of quite a few Mock drafts.

    San Diego picking Knowshon Moreno #16 is not a shock to me.
    LT looks washed up and will probably get cut or traded.
    Sproles is a FA and at his best when he is not an every down back.
    Hester (drafted in the 3rd last year) is a good player- not a great player.
    He may stay at FB.


    Mel Kiper's first round
    Pick Team Player Position College
    1 Detroit Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
    2 St. Louis Andre Smith OT Alabama
    3 Kansas City Mark Sanchez QB USC
    4 Seattle Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
    5 Cleveland Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
    6 Cincinnati Jason Smith OT Baylor
    7 Oakland Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
    8 Jacksonville Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
    9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St.
    10 San Francisco Aaron Maybin DE/OLB Penn St.
    11 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St.
    12 Denver B.J. Raji DT Boston College
    13 Washington Brian Orakpo DE Texas
    14 New Orleans Vontae Davis CB Illinois
    15 Houston Everette Brown DE Florida St.
    16 San Diego Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
    17 New York Jets Percy Harvin WR Florida
    18 Chicago Tyson Jackson DE LSU
    19 Tampa Bay Josh Freeman QB Kansas St.
    20 Detroit (from Dallas) Rey Maualuga LB USC
    21 Philadelphia Chris "Beanie" Wells RB Ohio St.
    22 Minnesota Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
    23 New England Brian Cushing LB USC
    24 Atlanta Larry English DE/OLB No. Illinois
    25 Miami Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Mryland
    26 Baltimore D.J. Moore CB Vanderbilt
    27 Indianapolis Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
    28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) Michael Oher OT Mississippi
    29 New York Giants James Laurinaitis LB Ohio St.
    30 Tennessee Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
    31 Arizona LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
    32 Pittsburgh Alex Mack C California
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    Brian Cushing, LB from USC.

    I'm not an 'Insider' either - the last thing I would want to do is give BSPN my money - but I found this from a google search that led me to a Jaguars fan forum

    17 New York Jets Percy Harvin WR Florida
    18 Chicago Tyson Jackson DE LSU
    19 Tampa Bay Josh Freeman QB Kansas St.
    20 Detroit (from Dallas) Rey Maualuga LB USC
    21 Philadelphia Chris "Beanie" Wells RB Ohio St.
    22 Minnesota Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
    23New England Brian Cushing LB USC
    24 Atlanta Larry English DE/OLB No. Illinois
    25 Miami Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland
    26 Baltimore D.J. Moore CB Vanderbilt
    27 IndianapolisPeria Jerry DT Mississippi
    28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) Michael Oher OT Mississippi
    29 New York Giants James Laurinaitis LB Ohio St.
    30 Tennessee Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
    31 Arizona LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
    32 Pittsburgh Alex Mack C California
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    Cushing would be sick......Gotta love the USC LB.
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    Re: Mel Kipers Mock draft

    From what I have seen from the senior bowl and how LT is valued so much I would say he would not make it past the top 15.
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    Found 1-16 on a Chiefs forum also if anybody is interested.
    Better than clicking on espn . . .

    1 - Detroit - Matthew Stafford - QB - Georgia
    2 - St. Louis - Andre Smith - OT - Alabama
    3 - Kansas City - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC
    4 - Seattle - Michael Crabtree - WR - Texas Tech
    5 - Cleveland - Aaron Curry - LB - Wake Forest
    6 - Cincinnati - Jason Smith - OT - Baylor
    7 - Oakland - Jeremy Maclin - WR - Missouri
    8 - Jacksonville - Eugene Monroe - OT - Virginia
    9 - Green Bay - Malcolm Jenkins - CB - Ohio St.
    10 - San Francisco - Aaron Maybin - DE/OLB - Penn St.
    11 - Buffalo - Brandon Pettigrew - TE - Oklahoma St.
    12 - Denver - B.J. Raji - DT - Boston College
    13 - Washington - Brian Orakpo - DE - Texas
    14 - New Orleans - Vontae Davis - CB - Illinois
    15 - Houston Everette Brown - DE - Florida St.
    16 - San Diego - Knowshon Moreno - RB - Georgia
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    Re: Mel Kipers Mock draft

    lt????????
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    Re: Mel Kipers Mock draft

    i think he meant LB
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    I figured he meant that but I would value LT more than LB so I hesitated and thought maybe he had a point that did not come thru.
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    Re: Mel Kipers Mock draft

    Maybe he's referring to Oher? :confused2:
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    Re: Mel Kipers Mock draft

    As long as Cushing is clean in terms of the allegations on how he got bigger I wouldn't have too big of a problem with that pick. Has there been any article or link that definitively exonoreted him?

    That being said if Oher is a franchise LT and he drops to 23, I don't see how the Pats wouldn't take a long hard look at him first.

    The other choice here is Laurinitis. Although I'm not a fan of taking an ILB high and I project Laurinitis to ILB, if he's a 'complete' linebacker that is a fit for the system, he could get some consideration by the Pats as well.

    The shocker pick here would be Lesean McCoy of Pitt. The guy is a really talented RB who has produced a ton of offense at the college level. He also has good size at 5-11 210 lbs.

    I'm also pleased to see no safeties gone here, meaning the Pats can likely pick up the one that they like in round 2.
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    Re: Mel Kipers Mock draft

    Interesting he has Laurentis and Maluga lasting as long as they do.. If we do get a late 1st round from Minny or Lions.. it would be nice to snag Cushing and a Laurentis or Maluga.
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    Re: Mel Kipers Mock draft

    Yep - id take Cushing

    If Tampa want a QB why wouldnt they go after MC and offer their 2nd?
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    Re: Mel Kipers Mock draft

    Because Kiper doesn't include trades in his mocks.
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    Because that would mess up Mels Mock....seriously though I think with a Mock it is best to stay away from speculations on trades whether that is where a Cassel may wind up or just a pick swap.
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    I'm almost certain Detriot will pick a WR
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    If Oher is available that late in the round, I'd like to see the Patriots go in that direction.
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    Re: Mel Kipers Mock draft

    I just posted it on another thread, but I'll repeat it here: If Oher is available when the Patriots pick, I think that's the way the team should go.

    Also, if Raji's stock continues to rise and the Chiefs change to a new coach who goes with the 3-4, this draft board could become a jumble in a hurry if the Chiefs took Raji to be the anchor of their line. That would give them a foundation similar to the way New England built its line, with Raji and Dorsey being the Wilfork and Seymour for Kansas City.
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    Re: Mel Kipers Mock draft

    This mock is garbage, IMO. I don't see any way Sanchez goes in the top 3 and I also don't see any way Knowshon Moreno makes it to #15. I do love that he has us taking Cushing. Hopefully he is spot on with that. But, other than that pick, you can pretty much throw this mock away.
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