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Kiper on how the Pats can earn an "A" from him

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    On ESPN Insider, so no link.

    Of course, it would involve objects being thrown through televisions by some here, I think:

    So far, relatively good, although some might quibble aboutt one or two of these.

    I think we've all criticized this enough already. But here comes half success, half EPIC FAIL:

    I agree with Kiper that the Pats would more likely focus on a more-downfield threat than a slot receiver.

    At least his argument related to Tebow is "He'd be a bad value here, and I highly doubt it, but hey, they have three picks ..."
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    I wish you would of erased the pick 22 part.

    Mel seems to know the Pats needs though, I'm sure the Patriots peculiar way of drafting in the past has peaked his interest and he has probably taken a more in depth approach on how he analyzes our team.
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    Personally, for me, it is way to early to criticize Kiper's choices of individual players.

    However, it does seem reasonable to criticize his priorities. His first two choices are OLB and DE. It's hard to disagree although most would her would not choose Sapp and Hardy. Most of us would be consider an OLB and DE reasonable additions. We could simply write in the best available OLB and DE that fits our system. There would be less disagreement. I have presumed that since DE is listed first among the 2nd round choices, that one would be drafted somewhere in the 2nd (or 1st).
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    THE NEXT SIX CHOICES FOR OUR OTHER TWO SECOND ROUNDERS OR NEXT TWO PICKS

    RB, OT, LB, WR, WR, QB

    I guess I don't understand how OG and TE can not even be a need or option. Is Kiper presuming that Neal and Watson will be back? Sloppy work that!
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    Who cares what Kiper thinks. I don't. Mel Kiper hasn't gotten a single Patriots 1st round pick correct to my knowledge. And he looks absolutely perplexed every time he gets it wrong.
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    I like hearing Greg Hardy and the Patriots mentioned in the same sentence.
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    How do you like hearing about Greg Hardy and foot surgery in the same sentence?

    There's a lot of blind faith involved when selecting an extremely large young man with chronic foot problems.
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    I agree 100%. Kiper just does not understand what BB looks for in drafting players.
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    some times i wonder if BB even knows what he's looking for in drafting players. lol
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    So, we shouldn't read Kiper because he has little inside information or reasonable analysis regarding the patriots. OK, you can make your choice. There are hundreds of mocks. His is one that has reasonable insights with regard to the draft, even if he cannot predict patriot picks. He is almost always in the top 10 in his drafts, and he has early mocks.

    Obviously if all you want in the best mock and the best prediction of patriot picks, than you need to ignore all the early mocks and read only Gosselin's columns.

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    I feel better already, I don't like any of those guys.
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    WTF is it with you? It seems that ANY time someone throws something out there, yoiu have to go an exaggerate it 10 fold.

    Draft Grades don't mean a damn thing,. So why should anyone care what Kiper has to say on how the Pats can get an "A" from him?
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    BB knows exactly what he's looking for. The problem is if he doesn't see it, I don't think they know what to do because they only look for that certain kind of player. They don't think outside the box. I hope going forward there will be a bit more flexibility in their thinking.
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    I also hope your right. We all know our needs so lets address them this draft.

    As far as Kiper; he knows players and can rattle off their stat's but I agree with those who saaid... Has he ever been correct on our picks?
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    With so many bad picks under his watch in the last 6 years, I'm beyond wondering.
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    I do not think BB has had many bad picks. I think a lot of his picks have not been able to crack our roster because until 2009 it had been stocked with some serious talent.
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    Cap Downer must be having a bad day, that's the most positive remark from him in quite some time. :p
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    My sister-in-law & her kids are visiting this weekend, and she gets me distracted, if you know what I mean.
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    Not that I want to put the blame on Pioli, but last year was a great draft without Scott. Maybe, it's addition through subtraction and the drafting will continue to improve.
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    I hope she moves in if it brightens your outlook. :snob:
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    I'm sure that BB could care less about 'earning an A' from some 'mock draft guru'. The Pats have always used their own in house scouting rather than national scout services, so their draft board and opinions on players can vary widely from those of other teams. I'd say 2009 draft looks like a success so far just from the guys that were able to contribute. I'm not even counting the redshirt injury guys or Brace, whom I admit doesn't look like much right now.

    I'd just like the Pats 2010 draft to address the passrush need, whatever position is drafted - ilb/olb/de/dt etc. Drafts vary in year to year in terms of talent but hopefully more people who fit BB's physical and talent mold are available and will be taken early and often by the Pats.
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