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  1. Mrs.PatsFanInVa

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    How on earth do you conduct a thorough investigation when you refuse to interview the principal character?


    Peter King Refuses To Meet With Prostitute Involved In Secret Service Scandal
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    Between him and Issa all they do is hold hearings on anything remotely construed as anti Obama, King is barrel of laughs guy..
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    I don't believe anyone is disputing her involvement. What would she bring to the story?
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    Yeah, there would have to be something relevant for her to testify to. Just 'cause Hustler hasn't called her back yet doesn't mean the US government owes her some free publicity.
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    Oh, I don't know....maybe the other side of the story????

    These agents aren't the cream-of-the-crop poster boys for honesty, yanno? If you don't talk to the other people who were there how do you know they're telling the truth?

    For instance, they said there was never any danger of anyone finding "secrets." She's said differently. Wouldn't it be good to quiz her and find out what, if anything, she did have access to?
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    LMFAO! Judge, do you want to hear the prosecution's key witness? No, I think I have enough to go on, afterall, these individuals are employed by the federal government.
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    Uh, gee, maybe by having the members of your committee or staff members be the ones who contact her directly and report back to you or, if she so chooses, contact her through her lawyer? (Which happens to be exactly what is happening).

    Just because he personally isn't meeting her doesn't mean she isn't getting the chance to tell her side of the story, so please feel free to stop running around like a chicken with its head cut off.

    Like the old saying goes, ask a stupid question.... :rofl:
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    The circumstances are clear a hooker was employed, she disputed the payment, and reported to the cops.

    What is being investigated is the structure of the agency that created an atmosphere with this lack of discipline. The sexual proclivities of the agents are secondary. The only thing she couls add would be to satisfy the purient interest of some.

    Who cares about the specifics of her beef the issue is the Secret Service culture that allowed this to happen at all. Unless we shoudfly all the Columbian hookers up fro a vacation in the US and perhaps deelop contacts for a reality show....
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    Drawing conclusions and making decisions on hearsay information is the preferred way of the right?? The guy told the other guy who told that other guy is the Constitutional way... :D:D:D:D
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    What exactly do you think she can add to the investigation?

    What is her contribution to government oversight.

    Specifics are welcome.
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    King prolly would have met with her if she went $50 bucks cheaper.


    Sorry, was there for the taking:p
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    How about the following?

    1) Would a "visitor" to the agent's room have access to the agent's belongings?

    2) Were visitors left unsupervised? Could they have, for instance, planted a bomb, while the agents were otherwise occupied?

    3) Would you have had access to their wallets, their IDs, their luggage, their personal information at any time? (For blackmail purposes)

    4) Were any photographs taken? Do you have any photographs in your possession?

    5) If visitors were left unsupervised ( or if the agents were asleep or passed out from drinking) were there any official documents in sight?

    6) Did you overhear any conversations of an official nature?

    7) Did you at any time have access to a room key or a way to copy the room key?

    8) Could you have made phone calls, perhaps to an accomplice if your purpose was not just prostitution but something of a terrorist nature?

    I think these are all pertinent questions - and I'd not trust the agents to answer them honestly.
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    So the hooker is going to evaluate the security procedures? :singing:


    The fact a hooker was in the room answers all those questions, since we assume the SS didn't do a background check on the hooker. :rolleyes:
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    #75 Jersey

    He's afraid she'll recognize him.
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    Who better at this point?
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    The fact she was there is the security problem. The question is where were the supervisors what did they know how did the agency police itself. If it happened here it is not a leap to think this wasn't an isolated incident that is the issue not this specific instance when they were caught.
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    You do not know, that is why you question her for direct testimony and not rely on hearsay...

    Has this happened before???

    If so with whom??

    Are Secret Service Men viewed as potential clients??

    What did you see in the room??

    Was the man you were with, appear to be drinking heavily??

    Did you notice any drugs or paraphenalia??
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    If the agents have already been fired for their behavior, that's enough punishment anyway. No need to prosecute the guys for any crimes. They've paid a price already.
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    Wait... wait...

    Is MrsPatsFan saying that Congress, in its oversight of the executive branch, should follow the same procedures as an investigative law enforcement body and to not do so is a failure of its duties?

    Does she really want to open that door?

    LOL
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    The point isn't to punish those who have been fired. It is rather to find out why the management structure broke down ato the point where this sort of thing happened at all.

    That is what some of the law enforcement posters are unable to grasp.
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    I'm not even talking about what happened to the "guys" ....I'm asking how do you plan on preventing something from happening in the future if you don't have the full story of what happened in the past?

    And how do you figure that losing your job (in some cases, being allowed to retire - with benefits) is paying enough of a "price" for jeopardizing national security, making a laughing stock out of your nation's security system and possibly putting The President of the United States in harm's way?
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    A significant percentage of gov't jobs have been a joke for a long time MrsP....sadly, that now includes the secret service too.

    When a gov't provides too much job security, people take advantage of it. Just look at all the publicity gov't (joke) jobs have gotten recently. Junkettes to Vegas and people making Youtube videos about what they do and don't do at work.

    To me, this is all good for the American people.
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    Move along folks, nothing to see here, it's all under the rug!!!!!!!!

    Really?????

    What if some of the prostitutes were under age?

    Further, it was an international incident, the President's safety could have been at risk and the agents were fired. Should there not be a thorough investigation? We're not just talking about prosecuting the perpetrators, but what actually occurred and how it was that it was allowed to occur.

    If I'm the head of the Secret Service, I want to know exactly how to put in place standard procedures so that this never happens again - - whether that be monitors for the agents, check-in systems while off duty overseas, etc.
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    Liberals are running scared now using any issue to deflect. This issue and gay issue are deflection issues . Liberals here will intensify efforts now.
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    No one is more qualified than a congressman to conduct a thorough investigation into ethics and breach of duty allegations.:rolleyes:

    While the agents should be disciliplined I think the outrage is waaaaay over the top. They partied and hired a hooker in their off time; while totally unprofessional they didn't club a baby seal in the town square.
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    I could buy that if they had waited until the president had come and gone - but they were the "advance" team and, as such, should not have regarded time as "off time" until their job was complete.

    The Secret Service guys around here that I'm acquainted with don't work just 8 hour shifts. Whatever job they get assigned starts when they get the assignment and ends when the assignment is over. They do their alotted hours but they are "on-call" even when they are not actively working. What if something had gone wrong while they were partying and the agents "on duty" needed their assistance? Just what they'd need, yanno, a bunch of fallin' down drunks lookin' for their pants and their service revolvers.
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    100% wrong.

    When you are Secret Service and working the President of the United States' detail in a foreign country there is no "off time". Nothing personal, but that post was exceptionally uninformed.

    While doing what they did was not a political thing, given the circumstances it was far worse than what you describe.
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    Please expound on your ominous 'far worse' reference.

    As you profess to be informed please advise how the advance team is compromised relative to squads, number of personnel and rotations?

    You'd be suprised relative to my basis of knowledge and being informed. ;)

    Let's see, oh I dunno, the advance teams, oh I dunno could be comprised of two or more, for lack of a better term, squads as it would be rather difficult for a single squad advance team to maintain and /or surveill perimeter and interior security at a venue for 24 hours straight.

    I agree that they used very poor judgement and that discipline is wholly merited but they OMG they jeopardized the POTUS hysteria is just that.
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    How do you figure?

    Luckily, the hookers were just that - hookers. But they very easily could have been terrorist types - and they very well could have planted time bombs or hidden weapons or explosives anywhere in the agent's rooms or vehicles which could have been detonated or used once the president arrived.
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    If they were Al Qaeda terrorist hookers I wonder if they would have gotten stoned upon successfully completing their mission? I imagine its tough to maintain an undercover identification as a hooker in one of those beekeeper suits.

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