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  1. zippo59

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    This is what I'm seeing in the upcoming season:

    Kick offs: Faulk and Hobbs

    Punts: Welker

    *Chad Jackson could also come in and do either at some point when he is healthy.

    Thoughts?
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    I'm not sure how much Hobbs will be KR considering he's starting and a year older. I could see Hobbs doing it until Jackson took over tho.

    How about my boy Willie Andrews? He kind of fell off after TC.
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    I don't want Hobbs returning kicks. There is too much chance of injury.
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    i like Chad Jackson in the role..his PRs last year were pretty good..He had 3 only though..1 he was a block away but he broke 2 tackles and got like 9 yards i think and then the Titans game he had 2 big returns
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    Well you better get used to it considering he is probably going to do it. And he is really good at it.
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    One of the high spots of last season was the quality of the kick returning -- Hobbs and Maroney were both terrific, the fact that they didn't break any returns for touchdowns notwithstanding. If they're too valuable to be used in that role again, I think that the team will be hard pushed to find replacements as good.
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    Sammy Morris returned kickoffs for Buffalo a few years ago.
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    I don't think he has that second gear to be completey effective on kicks.
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    neither does Welker who i think will be the returner. we didnt give up a 2nd plus a contract for a slot lemme tell u guys that. i think we have a lot of better options than Welker but hes gonna be there
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    I was a big fan of Willie Andrews after last year's training camp and the way he went all out on ST last year. I'd love to see him contribute more any way he can. Go Willie.

    I do think the KR group will be some mixture of Hobbs, Welker and Andrews.
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    Punt returns and kick returns require different skill sets.

    Kick returners need more straight line speed because they want to eat up as much sapce as possible before the coverage gets there.

    Punt returners need to be more shifty/quick because they are going to be surrounded by defenders pretty much as soon as they catch the ball so they need to make people miss and have less space to work with.

    Because Welker does not have good straight line speed but is very quick and shifty he should be used primarily as a punt returner, with someone like Hobbs who is much faster being the kick off return man.
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    I would say Welker and Hobbs for KR.
    Welker for PR.

    I don't want Faulk returning kicks because of his tendency to FUMBLE at bad moments.

    Hobbs is a very explosive KR as we've all seen, so it would be worth it to have him return some kicks although I'd rather not have him be the primary guy so as to lessen the load on him.
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    Unfortunately our two best return men, Maroney (kickoffs) and Hobbs (punts) are both starting so I doubt they'll see much action.

    Jackson would be a possibility except he'll be on IR.

    That leaves Faulk, Brown, Andrews and Welker. Unfortunately I have the snaeking suspicion we'll be seeing a lot of Welker. Bah. I don't think he's that great in the role. Not anywhere near as good as Hobbs or Maroney.
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    Hobbs has been a starter for the past year and a half and he has remained a kick returner throughout that time. I doubt things change this year.

    Maroney probably won't see action in the kicking game for the simple reason that being the starting running back and kick off returner would just be too much work. He would get exhausted by the middle of the season.
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    I agree completely. It's very rare that he breaks a big return. He will consistantly get you to the 25 or 30 yard line, but hardly ever past that.
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    I could see a possibility of Kevin Faulk returning kicks.
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    Amen brother. KO guys need speed and burst.

    That's why Faulk is a better PR than KO guy. I never understood why they continued to use him for KOs until last season; when they tried him as a PR, he did well as a PR.
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    Yea, I wouldn't say Faulk isn't fast enough to return kicks, but i agree he is great for punt returns. I think Hobbs would be best for a kickoff return, but I doubt he will since he will probably start at CB, and being injured isn't worth it.
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    I fixed your post.

    Starting Jackson on IR would be like setting your car on fire because you don't like the mileage it's getting.
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    Thanks almost entirely to the garbage special teams blocking of the Miami Dolphins....But far be it from you or Remix to admit that. Remix acts like that part of the game didn't HELP Hobbs or Maroney last year on kick returns or Faulk/Brown on Punt returns.

    There is a damn good reason why the Phins LED the league in fair catches. And it wasn't because Welker isn't a good punt returner.
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    I love Hobbs as a kick returner, he reads the blocking well and makes one cut and goes; no dancing around trying to juke guys out he just keeps going forward and getting yards. If he is the return man on kicks this season I expect him to run at least a couple back for TDs.

    I think its will almost certainly come down to Welker and Faulk for punt returns. Welker should do a lot better here since he will actually have a competant special teams unit blocking for him. You've got to love Faulks quickness on punt returns too, you really can't go wrong with either one. If Troy Brown returns I'd expect to see him keep his job of making fair catches when they are backed up and don't want to take any risks.
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    As much as I hate to see a starting CB return kicks, I'd have to agree that Hobbs will likely still be back there.

    I also think this is the only area a healthy CJax will contribute in 07. And once/if he is healthy, it will be the reason he bumps Gaffney/Caldwell off the roster when/if he is activated off PUP.
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    Donte' Stallworth has a little bit of experience returning kicks and punts. He returned a few kickoffs in 2003 and he returned a few punts from 2003-2005.
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    doubt we put in a fragile WR at KR. no sir
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    My guess is that Welker handles most of the kick returns during the regular season but Hobbs takes over in crucial spots during the regular season and will be the primary KR come playoff time. He is clearly the best KR on the team but his importance on defense makes it though to use him as the #1 KR. Welker is solid enough and sure handed enough that he is OK at KR even if he can't give us the game breaking ability a Hobbs or Maroney bring to the table.
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