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  1. COLT FAN

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    Hello All, Again I say, I am here to discuss this game and not to talk smack. Either way, I won't be here long after this game to talk smack or give excuses. I say now itself the team that wins this Sunday is clearly the #1 team in the NFL and barring injuries will win the SB42. Also that team could very well vie for the "All time Great Team". With that said, in my view both these teams matchup very well. Both offenses are capable of scoring points at will and both defenses are capable of making crucial stops. Then what are the keys to this game. In no order of importance I give below my keys. Please add yours and we can discuss till sunday without smack.
    Also I would be very surprised if this game was a blowout either way. I think both team will be tied (or down by <3) going in to 4th Q and winning it there.

    I am not stating the obvious as I feel both these teams have a great passing attack and a very good ground game and a good sound defense. So in my opinion they cancel each other.

    Keys:

    1. Turnovers - Whoever wins this battle in my opinion would stand a much better chance of winning on sunday (I don't think +1 or -1 is winning though; at least 2 extra Turnovers).
    2. Luck - This is what I call ball bouncing your way or lucky breaks like a kick out of bounds or able to pin the opposition inside 2 yard line etc.
    3. Intangibles - These can never be a part of a team's plan.
     
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    Well said.

    4. The zebras.

    (but i really don't think it's going to be close enough for them to become decisive.)
     
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    Yes #4 could happen, but I would be extreamly dispointed if that happens. Let the Zebras please not spoil this truly great game !
     
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    Thanks for being respectful and all, but these are your "keys"??

    Turnovers, luck and intangibles? ReallY?

    My keys:

    1. Stop the slot guy - you guys can't let Welker beat you, and we can't let Clark beat us.

    2. Stop the run with the front 7 - Whoever has to bring a safety up first is in trouble

    3. Pressure up the middle - Pats and Colts need to confuse the interior line with blitzes and stunts - otherwise the D's will get picked apart.
     
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    My keys - your team has no F-ing shot to win. NONE. We're going to kill you. Seriously. 10+ MOV.
     
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    Zombie John Madden says " Well the key to this game(Brett Favre!) will be the team who scores the most points and- .... BRAINS. BRAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
     
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    Not to be critical, but the three points that you listed could very well be considered the decisive factors in ~75% or more of NFL games (turnovers, in particular).

    Personally, I would argue that the Pats are significantly better on both offense and defense (check their current rosters vs. as of the AFCCG, for the Pats and the Colts, when the Colts were slightly better,and it's obvious who reloaded more).

    That said, the Colts are a damn good team, and, along with the Pats, are the class of the NFL. I am confident that this will be the best regular season game played this year, and whoever wins it will have to be considered the distinct favorite to win the SB, as you said. And, FWIW, the loser will still be #2 bet, for sure, no matter what Dallas, SD, or anyone else in the next tier does.

    Here's to a great game :eat3:
     
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    My key for the game.

    Patriots need to hit a couple of deep passes in the 1st quarter. Game over.

    I know that sounds rather simplistic, but thats the key to the game.
     
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    I'm sorry to be critical, but your thinking makes no sense.

    You think whoever wins this game will likely win the superbowl, yet you think the game will be close and that luck and turnovers (neither of which have much predicative value for a future game) will be major factors.

    Whoever wins this game will get the #1 ranking and will likely be rewarded with HFA. Unless one team wins handily, it provides little in the way of predicative value for the AFCCG.

    I'd have no problem with NE losing this week but winning the rematch in January, and a NE win this week will not make me any less concerned about facing Indy in January (unless it's a blowout).
     
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    I wrote clearly that "I am not stating the obvious as I feel both these teams have a great passing attack and a very good ground game and a good sound defense. So in my opinion they cancel each other"

    Yes ofcourse all you stated are very important along with the long ball to keep defense from cheating closer to the line and all the usual stuff. I thought both these teams know each other very well and would cancel out. So I thought outside the box. I really think ultimately it will come down to Turnovers and intangibles. At present I don't know what the intangibles would be , but I would tell you on monday!

    U R welcome. I am respectful to your team's achievements. Even if they don't win another SB (which I doubt) this decade, What they did in like 3 out 4 would not be broken for a long - long time. I may be your opposition team fan, but I respect where there is achievement. To win 1 Superbowl is difficult in the cap era and your team won 3 out 4. I take my hat off. All that said, I wish & hope my team does the same. What I don't like is fans of teams with no rings trying to ridicule saying ....... you know what. What do they know about winning????


     
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    I think I can say regardless of who wins this Sunday, the loser will still be very capable of winning the next time these two teams meat.

    With regard to the #1 team in the NFL, that won't be decided until the SB (I get your point though)

    Classy post by the way!
     
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    The Colts are a great great team. But I think this Patriots team could end up being the best ever. So I think we will blowout the colts. We lost the AFCCG in the last minute, but that was with the worst WR in FB and MANY of our defensive players injured/out and sick. This time around we have the best WR in football, a really good running game, and an improved, healthy defense. Lastly, the Colts have looked flat in the first half of many of their games. If they play flat for even 5 minutes, the game could get ugly. The Colts will not only have to play perfect football for 60 minutes, but will have to execute the perfect plan to hold down the Pats offense for 60 minutes. It just doesn't seem to likely.
     
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    Is this the Dr Jeckyl Patsox or the Mr. Hyde Patsox?:
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    posted this morning at 10:58 am:

    "A little bit of that is just bluster on my part, but I do think the Pats are going to play well. And I think cover 2 is a bad match for this offense.

    My biggest concern going into this game is the healthy of Kyle Brady. What about you guys?"
     
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    Turnovers and intangibles are thinking outside the box? If you look at the turnover differential of any given game, you can predict who won with great accuracy. It's no coincidence, in fact, that the Pats and Colts just so happen to be tied for best in the league in turnover differential. Definitely a key to any game, but not exactly outside the box. :p
     
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    I am not saying 0 chance for the losing team.

    Not only the winning this game gives HFA but a psycological edge as well in the playoffs. Of course the losing team could very well come back and win there. Possible but not probable. Let us examine this.

    let us assume HFA for the winning team because they have to lose two more games to lose HFA.

    They get HFA and the Psy. edge; It would be very difficult for the other to win in the opposition stadium in Jan. I would say 75-25 in favor of the team with HFA (winning this game).
     
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    My keys to Pats win:

    1) Keep Freeney and Mathis in check with just 6 (5 OL + 1 TE or RB). If this happens with any regularity then Brady will pick apart the Colts secondary. This in turn will open up the running lanes for the Pats RB's which will allow Brady the flexibility to audible into and out of formations looking for the best matchups.

    2) Stop Addai with just front 7. If this happens with any regularity then BB will be able to devise coverage schemes to confuse Manning and control the Colts passing offense.
     
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    HFA alone doesn't make sense though, and is horribly overrated anyway. Both of these teams can win on the road. If NE loses this game in the dome by a couple points on a last-second field goal, is there any reason to think they can't win the AFCCG in the dome?

    Also, if HFA is so important then you shouldn't think NE stands a very good chance in this game. There's no difference in the dome between November and January.

    Psychological edge? Really? You think either of these teams, who're likely to win 14+ games and are headed by the top 2 coaches and QBs in the league, will go into the next match-up thinking they cannot win?

    I guess I'm just saying not to buy into the hype. It's a huge regular season game, but that's all it is.
     
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    A few things of note:

    Can the colts neutralize Wes Welker?

    The Patriots addition of Adalius Thomas. How will he effect NE's ability to pressure Manning, and will he be effective helping in coverage against Dallas Clark?

    The overall level of health the Patriots defense goes into this game with. Rodney, Wilson and Seau missed the AFCCG, Bruschi had the flu, Colvin missed a large portion of the game, Richard Seymour was sporting an arm-brace, and Ellis hobbs was playing with a broken wrist. Right now it seems Wilson is the only defensive starter that could have health concerns going into the game.

    Is Kyle Brady going to be healthy? And, if Kyle is out will the Colts find it easier to get pressure on Brady?

    Do the Colts risk light coverage against Moss?

    If the Colts shift coverage to Moss will Stallworth be able to make them pay?

    If the Patriots establish the run, will Bob Sanders bite on play action? If so, will that open up Randy or Donte for the deep pass?

    Is Marvin Harrison going to play, and will he be effective?

    Finally, will Marlin Jackson's recent concussion effect his play?
     
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    Did you go to the Shaun King school of football analysis?

    Thanks for playing

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    That is the story in my opinion. I really think that people will be stunned, with the 2nd half of the AFCCG being their most recent memory. NE won't be able to shut down Manning, but they won't be rolling over for him either.
     
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