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  1. BadMoFo

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    Re: Ken Hamlim just got tagged

    Geez. Practically the only guys not tagged that are worth a darn are our guys....
     
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    This trend in use of the tag is in part due to the New CBA and how the Salary Cap increases each year.

    With the levels that the cap has rose over the last few years it can actually be precieved as a bargain. Example Asante last year. The average of the top five corners was way below what Celements averaged per year. It is the average based on last years number which is a smaller total cap.
     
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    Re: Ken Hamlim just got tagged

    This is not an accurate statement. Everyone knows that the last 2 years of Clements deal are fake. His deal averaged him out at just over 8 million when you take that into consideration. The franchise tag for last year was only 7.79 million. Also, people look at what Clements did this year and they won't be nearly as giddy to sign Samuel for such a large contract.

    This year's franchise tag number for CBs is 9.465 million. A HUGE jump considering it was only 7.79 last year. So, how is tagging Trufant for 9.465 million a bargain?
     
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    Anyone know what clements was on the books for last year....I have to believe it was more than 8 mil. Doesnt he have like 30 mil guarenteed in the first 3 years? If the CB number is 9.5 this year I would imagine Clements was the highest paid and thus would have to be more than the 9.5 (just a theory in case someone doesnt have the number)

    Trufant for 9.5 on a one year deal is a huge bargain from trufant at that number or close to it for multiple years.

    But actually seeing that jump does seem like my statement was wrong and looks like the averages caught back up to the market.

    Two years ago thuogh it was a huge bargain because the cap previously was 90+ mil and jumped to 100+.
     
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    I reallyy thought we'ed take a look at this guy last year,he wasn't that expensive and look how he turned out. We never gave him a sniff,and he put in one of the best performances for a saftey last year. :confused:
     
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    Thanks for making me google to find out who the hell Ken Hamlin is.
     
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    Re: Ken Hamlim just got tagged

    he was not very good..he got a few picks but he missed a lot of tackles and got beat a lot in coverage. Thats why it was so outrageous when Cowboys sent their 2 safeties to Hawaii...unbelievable.

    Very overrated but the salary to franchise a safety is nothing big so i guess its not a bad move.
     
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    Re: Ken Hamlim just got tagged

    When we played Dallas he seemed to be all over the field. I'm going mainly by what I saw and heard,which I admit wasn't a lot of Dallas this year.
     
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    Re: Ken Hamlim just got tagged

    Absolute nonsense. He was a strong tackler all season and really never got beat deep, especially compared to the Patrick Watkins/Keith Davis safety combination that the Cowboys sent out in 2006. Adding Hamlin as a starter was the only change to the secondary in 2007. The Cowboys QB Rating Against went down over 10 points with his addition, and that's ignoring the fact that Terrence Newman, a top 5-10 cornerback in the league, missed 5 starts with injury. I will give you Roy Williams as being a guy who is an outrageous Pro Bowl selection (although keep in mind he was an alternate) but Hamlin definitely deserved it.
     
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    Re: Ken Hamlim just got tagged

    I disagree with you. Being from WA state, I read and heard a lot about Hamlin during his Seahawk days. He was always a big hitter type of safety, but his coverage skills were the reason Seattle didn't want to resign him. He got confused and beat quite a bit. In fact, he reminds me a lot of a Eugene Wilson type. I didn't follow him much last year, but I can tell you that QB rating dropping 10 points can come from many different reasons than adding one player to their defense. You can argue that their offense was a whole lot better too and they didn't really add anyone either. Point is that many here in Washington believe that Hamlin was always overrated and not a complete safety you want as your starter. Just remembered how terrible he was in coverage when we played them in Week 6.
     
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    Yes, at 25 years old in Seattle, while recovering from a fractured skull he was not a complete safety. He is now. He played fine in Week 6, the problem was Anthony Henry was out, Terrence Newman was nowhere close to 100%, and Jacques Reeves and Nate Jones had no business covering Stallworth and Welker.
     
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    Re: Ken Hamlim just got tagged

    I was talking about him at his best, before the accident.
     
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    Re: Ken Hamlim just got tagged

    The point I'm making is that he was 24 when the accident happened, so I wouldn't expect him to be at his best or to be fully developed as a player.
     
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