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    I don't know who this guy is, but it might well reflect a good chunk of the vibe in KC. Other than a few minor points, he's right. But could we trade out of #3 or get good value at that high a draft spot?

    Billboards, dollar bills, long shots and every reason the Chiefs need to trade for Matt Cassel | Red Zone

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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    Good stuff, I'm a firm believer that the press has a major impact on fan and team reactions to which path they go down and just like in Minnesota with Charley Walters of the Pioneer Press, same deal, calling out for Matt Cassel, this is nothing but great stuff. Two interested parties (Minn/KC) is all it takes to start raising the ante for Matt's sevices. Keep the articles coming because it will just get Matt's market off to a nice, fluffy start heading into Feb..............
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    He makes a convincing argument. It makes all kinds of sense for the Chiefs to do this. But I don't think they'll be handing over a 3 pick for it though. Nor would we ncessarily want to be that high up there, unless BB decides this is the year he wants a sure thing tackle.

    From our perspective there are other teams, better placed, for Cassel. Minnesota anyone?
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    I agree, if I had to guess where Matt ends up right now, my bet is on Minnesota. They are the one team that is a real good QB away from making a run and they also have a pick that makes sense to trade for both them and us at #20. (#20 this year) and a #3 in 09 or a #2 in 2010 works.
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    It wouldn't necessarily be KC's #1 (3rd overall) for Cassel straight up. It could be Cassel + NE's #1 for KC's #1.
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    I don't know if the Patriots would like this expensive a pick.

    Another solution would be to trade picks in the second and

    third rounds plus another pick in 2010.
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    Eff that.

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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    No way. They're going to pick up draft picks in any trade.
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    This is of course highly relevant because while with the New England Patriots Scott Pioli developed a well deserved reputation of making all personnel decisions based on how the wind was blowing in the local blogs and papers.

    In fact the only reason New England traded for Moss was the strong demand in the local papers.

    And numerous sources have confirmed that the Patriots were on the verge of release Matt Cassel in August 2008 but overwhelming fans support for the backup quarterback resulted in the GM reversing his opinion.

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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    The more competition for Cassel the better. If they were to get the 3rd pick it would be BJ Raji DT BC. He is now projected to go #6 to the Bengals. With all the DL contracts expiring together next year, this would be a great pickup.

    More`likely it would be High 2nd and 3rd round this year and 2nd next year.
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    They are better off trading down and then trading us a later pick for cassel and still getting some picks in the deal. Hes not worth a #3, and Peoli should definately know that.
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    Doesn't KC have Minn's 1st for the Allen trade? That would be a more likely scenario to me.
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    They got that last year; the only teams (as of now) with two firsts this year are the Lions and the Eagles.
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    Thanks for the /sarcasm note. You saved my head from exploding. :p ;)
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    How about Detroit's no. 20 overall pick plus their third rounder (65) for Cassel? They get a QB and keep their #1 and #33 picks, NE gets two later first-rounders (20, 23) and six picks in the first three rounds?

    I'd hate to see Cassel in Detroit, just because I like him, but it might end up as a good fit.
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    Cassel to KC for their second round pick and Tony Gonzo who had almost 100 catches last season. Conditional pick in 2010 depending on how KC does.
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    No Gonzo, let him enjoy his twilight years in KC helping Cassdawg get off to a good start.
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    While I know that Cassel would love to have him I know Tom Brady could do some great things with a good TE (I go hot and cold with Watson). I just really do not like a Top 5 pick and thought a player who could come in right away and contribute plus their second round pick (a good player could drop out of the first round at either S, LB, C or OL) would be great value for us where Gonzo is not that expensive.
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    We need defensive players (and young ones) much more than we need a watson upgrade to Gonzo (although he is the man).
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    I don't want a top 5 pick either, at least not until it is time to draft Matt Light's replacement. KC has #34 overall, offer this with their 2010 1st and they've got a good starting point for negotiations.
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    Jenkins or Crabtree.

    I would cream my pants
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    jenkins or curry, come to papa.
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    If the price is looking like a #1 + another pick in 2010 I could see a team with a lowish #1 like TB, Minn, Jest, just signing him as a Franchised player and giving up the two #1s, this year and next. Unlikely. But possible. If the price is a #1 and a #2 and you want the guy, it's not unreasonable to pay a little more to remove the competition.
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    Question: Does Scott Pioli like Cassel enough to give up the #3 pick?

    Answer: Given that Pioli's a former Patriot, how the hell are we supposed to know?
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    Just where and when do you geniuses figure that Belichick will get a top ten pick to draft that stud Lineman?

    From the same 7th round/UDFA bin you project a pickup to easily replace the #6 in the first round, Richard Seymour? I thought so. Draftniks always amaze me.:p

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    Neither Warren nor Wilfork were top 10 picks......
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    Re: KC STAR Sports blog calling for the team to get Cassel.

    Agreed.....how old is this guy anyways......He has been a great talent in this league, and perhaps one of the best to play the position....but he is getting a bit long in the tooth...and heading towards the downside of his career isn't he?
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    And neither is the Foundation tackle that Seymour is. How many pro-bowl appearances for them combined, versus SeyMonsta? But Warren was the top 12th. The Pats moved up a spot to insure the Bears didn't trade for picks.

    Wilfork was projected to Top Ten, maybe Top Five; and then just slid, and slid, and slid, as Teams drafted needs ... No one could believe it; including Bill himself!

    Want to wager how often that happens? ;)
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    Ok, if you're seriously going to claim that Wilfork isn't a "foundation" tackle, there's really nothing worth talking about. Wilfork may be the best 3-4 NT in the game.
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    A fan blog site doesn't exactly qualify as credible. It's not like the Chiefs themselves are saying this.
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