Judge Doty chimes in

[juny]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...goodell-adrian-peterson-deflategate/32402155/

“I’m not sure the commissioner understands there is a CBA,” Doty said

 

[shmessy]

Not sure that one-liner will help Brady at all. IANAL, but it seems that will HURT Brady's case.

In Brady's case the NFL is basing EVERYTHING on the CBA.

 

[BradyFTW!]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...goodell-adrian-peterson-deflategate/32402155/

He understands that Article 46 means the CBA doesn't matter, because Article 46 makes him God-Emperor of Football.

 

[Oswlek]

Not sure that one-liner will help Brady at all. IANAL, but it seems that will HURT Brady's case.

In Brady's case the NFL is basing EVERYTHING on the CBA.

How? Doty is saying that rest of the CBA should carry more weight than just article 46.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Not sure that one-liner will help Brady at all. IANAL, but it seems that will HURT Brady's case.

In Brady's case the NFL is basing EVERYTHING on the CBA.

Yes and no. I'd say the NFL is basing everything on Article 8 of the NFL Bylaws and Article 46 of the CBA, while deliberately ignoring the rest.

 

[shmessy]

I need to hear Steph Stradley's take on this.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

“Jail time – is that what you want?” Doty said. “Do you want us to put the commissioner in jail?”

Yes, please.

 

[ANGR89]

Not sure that one-liner will help Brady at all. IANAL, but it seems that will HURT Brady's case.

In Brady's case the NFL is basing EVERYTHING on the CBA.

OK maybe I'm just a little slow today but I'm confused as to how this hurts Brady? To me it sounded more anti goddell....

 

[chasa]

He understands that Article 46 means the CBA doesn't matter, because Article 46 makes him God-Emperor of Football.

"all I ask is that you admit guilt, admit that the wells report was 100% correct, and declare fealty to me, and for that I will allow you to sit out only two games, for I am a generous god"

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

Yes and no. I'd say the NFL is basing everything on Article 8 of the NFL Bylaws and Article 46 of the CBA, while deliberately ignoring the rest.

I don't know BFTW, I don't see your angle on this. Doty seems to be saying, reading between the lines, 'Goodell doesn't seem to understand he is bound by rules and laws' (that is including his behavior on Deflategate) At least that's my take on it...

 

[Hammer of Thor]

"Jail time - is that what you want?" Doty said. "Do you want us to put the Commissioner in jail?"

Kessler said no.

Kessler just dropped down a notch in my view.....

 

[Deus Irae]

Strong words by Doty. It will be interesting to see if Berman points to them.

 

[Deus Irae]

OK maybe I'm just a little slow today but I'm confused as to how this hurts Brady? To me it sounded more anti goddell....

It doesn't hurt Brady even the tiniest bit. It's an absolute smack down of Goodell.

 

[shmessy]

OK maybe I'm just a little slow today but I'm confused as to how this hurts Brady? To me it sounded more anti goddell....

Emotionally it is anti Goodell. And it is very anti-Goodell in the PETERSON case.

But this is a court of law, not a popularity contest.

In the Peterson case the Judge is saying that Goodell isn't paying attention to the CBA.

In the Brady case, Goodell is basing his entire case - - not on right or wrong - - but on the strict interpretation of the CBA giving him full authority to arbitrate.

If anything, it looks as if Doty is giving Goodell's lawyers a platform in the Brady case. Doty is upholding the importance of the CBA. The crappy CBA abdication by the NFLPA regarding Stokoe's arbitration powers is what Brady is trying to fight AGAINST in front of Berman. That is Brady's obstacle, not platform.

 

[SVN]

I need to hear Steph Stradley's take on this.

Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley 29m29 minutes ago
Duurrrdeedoo MT @mchorowitz Federal Judge Doty asks whether Goodell understands there is a CBA

 

[BradyFTW!]

I don't know BFTW, I don't see your angle on this. Doty seems to be saying, reading between the lines, 'Goodell doesn't seem to understand he is bound by rules and laws' (that is including his behavior on Deflategate) At least that's my take on it...

I agree with that take, sorry if I worded my original post weirdly. The NFL basically claims that Article 46 is the only part of the CBA that really matters. Judge Doty is pointing out that there's a whole lot more to the CBA that does matter, and Article 46 doesn't allow the NFL to pretend otherwise.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Not sure that one-liner will help Brady at all. IANAL, but it seems that will HURT Brady's case.

In Brady's case the NFL is basing EVERYTHING on the CBA.

Hes saying that Goody doesn't understand the CBA and isn't a lawyer who in theory has training to understand the CBA.

 

[SVN]

Man, if we had got the case filed earlier in MN.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Not sure that one-liner will help Brady at all. IANAL, but it seems that will HURT Brady's case.

In Brady's case the NFL is basing EVERYTHING on the CBA.

But that is really the entire dispute here. The CBA has seemingly contradictory interpretations, one saying Article 46 renders all other articles as "suggestions" whereas one is that even with Article 46, the "arbitrator" still needs to carefully consider all of the other collectively bargained rules and guidelines.

 

[SVN]

Hes saying that Goody doesn't understand the CBA and isn't a lawyer who in theory has training to understand the CBA.

I think this is in response to kessler's request to add Goodell in the contempt list

The NFLPA filed its motion in May against the NFL, the NFL Management Council and Commissioner Roger Goodell, whom Doty pointed out multiple times isn’t an attorney in questioning union counsel Jeffrey Kessler about who exactly should be held in contempt.

“I’m not sure the commissioner understands there is a CBA,” Doty said, citing quotes from Goodell in newspaper articles he has read.