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    Juan Williams FIRED: NPR Sacks Analyst Over Fox News Muslim Comments


    Juan Williams FIRED: NPR Sacks Analyst Over Fox News Muslim Comments

    EDIT: Please merge or delete this post, I hadn't realized it was already posted
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    The left loves diverse opinions as long as they are the politically correct opinions.
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    I have a feeling Juan is not the only nervous person on a flight with Muslims.
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    And the right claims to be for small govt yet spends like the Dems' and welcomes laws infringing on adults' lives.

    btw, would you be ok with blankets statements toward Jews or Catholics?
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    You are confusing conservatives with republicans. On this board Bush and the republican congress was roundly criticized for their spending.
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    Juan explains his comment in the same segment:

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    The right so loves diverse opinions they:

    Would not allow signs at the Glenn Beck/Palin circle jerk...
    Almost ruined the Dixie Chicks for those 11 words they uttered..
    Had people arrested for wearing the wrong t-shirts at GWB events...
    And their newest deity Christine O'Donnell did not even know that speech was protected under the first amendment...

    This is just the situational outrage of the day, brought to you by Huckabee and friends... lets all bash NPR and stop their funding, even though your family is getting gang raped on your front steps by the merchants of death(war profiteers...
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    Probably not....but I also have a feeling that if he said, "I gotta admit, if I see a group of young black men with tattoos and earrings, I cross the street," or, "I'll tell ya, Bill, whenever I see three or four young blondes standing on a corner in short skirts and high heels I'm pretty sure they're whores," or, "I lock my car doors whenever I see a Hispanic youth walking towards my vehicle," there'd be a similar contract termination - and a whole lot more agreement with his firing, too.

    Generalizations are a dangerous thing - they are especially dangerous in the hands of a media personality.

    That being said, he did go on to explain himself rather admirably and I don't believe he should have been fired. It reminds me a bit of the whole Shirley Sherrod spectacle where only part of a comment was focused upon.
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    How about it? Reducing everything to targeted and edited sound bites to make some kind of sanctimonious stand that barely resembles the actual conversation is liable in my opinion. This sound bite will be the only thing some people will here and the only thing some people will report. Juan’s reputation has been needlessly but deliberately damaged and this bigot drum will no doubt be beat by disingenuous opportunists who could care less about anything other than their political agendas.
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    Seriously now people, this is the Real World. This isn't New Utopia. Nothing the man said was either wrong, bigoted, or controversial. It's simply REALITY. That a man of Juan Williams standing could be fired for such remarks, is ludicrous. What a wussified, uber PC world we live in. BTW, what's NPR anyway?


    Mrs P, while some thugs on the corner might not be criminals, or some blondes on the corner with mini-skirts and high heels might not be ho's (not till I'm done with them anyway :rocker:), one would simply be using a touch of reality, dabbling in with a little common sense, if they left themselves open to the possibility they may be. No one is saying that they are terrorists/criminals/whores/etc as much as they are saying they are more likely to be, than person X.

    Let's be serious here. If you see these guys on one side of the street:

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    Which side of the street are you going to want to walk on? Now, this isn't to say that the appearance of any of these people is indicitive of what kind of person they truly are. They may all go to church on Sunday, and work in homeless shelters in their spare time. However, as a basic matter of being realistic, we all know which side of the street 99% of us would prefer to walk. There is nothing wrong with that. It's simply reality.
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    If the war profiteers on the right are to blame, why hasn't Obama pulled all the troops out?
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    horse ****...... since when do Muslims get the benefit?:(


    Islam is the devil:mad:
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    Muslims are better protected in America than Al Gore's Spotted Owls.

    Shhhhh
    Muslims attacked us on 9/11 but don't mention it, maybe we can find a way to blame The Eskimos.
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    Every time that this subject is brought up, the right brings out their ball washers saying it is ok what they do, and that is reflected in the mood of the country.. they whine about ACORN, NPR but ignore how the war profieers are smearing the good name of America on foreign soil, under our flag all the while making billions of dollars... as a nation we are desensitized to their atrocities, as no one really sees it and worse of all few understand and less really care..

    If you have to ask, you will never understand the real power and politics of this country.. congress is just a mirage, the shot callers are all behind the scenes and they essentially control this country.. american by the corporation, for the corporation...
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    If you're such a master of the real power and politics, are you an elected official?

    Obama is Commander in Chief... he can do whatever he wants. Your blind ignorance to that fact and constant fear of this "shadow enemy" of Republican boogeymen who are the root of all evil makes me hope you're an investor in Reynolds.
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    Really, Harry? Are you sure it was Muslims that attacked us on 9/11? Every last one of them, right? Not terrorists but Muslims, right? Not even Muslim Terrorists - just plain Muslim.

    You're right....these are some scary looking people, that's for sure. I hope Homeland Security questioned them all on 9/12 coz they sure are guilty -----of being Muslim.

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    Actually, I said "the right," not conservatives or Republicans. In some cases there certainly are differences, but I think the two are far more synonymous than you do.

    There may have been people on this board on the right who roundly criticized spending during the prior administration, but in general there are far more people on the right who now claim they criticized spending during that time, and disliked Bush as a faux-conservative, than who were actually criticizing him and his ways while he was in office.
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    Yeah, and far more priests have attacked children, with their higher-ups then trying to cover it up.

    I guess we should assume all Catholics are pedophiles.

    Must be sad to live life longing for the days when America was supposedly a utopia, and only white Christian males were "protected" by the nation's laws and customs.
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    Before this thread gets totally derailed and spins off into yet another, "Muslim bad, WhiteMan good," bleat, bleat, bleat.....


    It appears that Mr. Williams may have been traveling down the You'reOutaHere Road for some time. His remarks on the O'Reilly Show may have been the straw but apparently he's been riding that camel into the ground for awhile.

    Williams' frequent appearances on "the largely conservative and often contentious prime-time talk shows of Fox News have long been a sore point with NPR News executives," the NPR website reported. Williams' title was recently changed from correspondent to analyst after he took clear-cut policy positions in TV appearances and in newspaper columns.

    In February 2009, NPR asked that Williams stop being identified on "The O'Reilly Factor" as a "senior correspondent for NPR," even though that title was accurate at the time, The New York Times reported.

    At the time, NPR ombudswoman Alicia C. Shepard called Williams a "lightning rod" because he "tends to speak one way on NPR and another on Fox." She told the Times that NPR received 378 listener e-mails in 2008 complaining about Williams.


    NPR Fires Analyst Juan Williams for Saying Muslims Make Him Nervous
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    Every so often your right about something, I should have said "Muslim Terrorists".

    The people that picket funeral parlors when soldiers have died are Baptists nobody seems concerned with pointing out that fact.
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    This forum is a generalization disaster area.
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    I think that points more of finger at NPR. It's as if to say "how dare he show up on Fox". The sad part is, Juan Williams is anything but right wing. Williams is actually one of my favorite pundits on TV. He's open minded, fair, intelligent, level headed, and above all, honest. Like I said before though, who's NPR? :confused2:
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    True enough...and nobody seems to say all Baptists are funeral-picketing, gay-bashing, hate-mongering idiots either, do they? They generally make the distinction.
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    Why do they even have to mention "Baptist" why not just "f-cking hate mongering idiots"
    I can't understand why somebody hasn't shot them and their kids.
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    I guess for the same reason that you can't say the words, "Scumsucking, garbage-swilling, woman-killing" without adding the word "Muslim" every time you think you have something to say.

    And I can't understand how you're allowed to continually spew such hatred and advocate such violence without being removed from this board so I guess we're even.
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    Funny...I just recently made the same statement Juan made on Fox and people here (some people ;)) accused me of being....well, I don't wanna say, so read between the lines.

    But the fact is, Juan & I think the same on this issue.
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    Chico, not to harp on this, but once again you jump on the "right" as if you're from the "left". Yet you always write that you're not conservative or liberal, but moderate.

    I'm looking forward to reading your first "jump on the left" post! :D

    Here's my take on Juan's comments. Many Americans FEEL and THINK exactly what Juan describes....even liberals (since Juan is liberal!)!! So why is politically INCORRECT to speak honestly?

    Just sayin'
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    PR,

    The statement he made is about as racist as it gets. He is assuming all muslims are terrorists. Thats totally fukkked up for a black man to say something like that. Mrs PF is right, he should be cool with going into a store, and being frisked and being frisked when he leaves, becaus ethe shop owner might be afraid he will steal something.

    Are all Japanese poeple kamakaze bombers?
    Are all Germans Nazis?

    He is pandering to the fear base of the FOX viewers.

    Agreeing with Juan Williams here is sucky. He is 100% wrong. He is 100% racist.

    Besides...NONE OF THE TERRORIST MUSLIMS LOOKED LIKE IT. They were all clean shaven, wearing button down shirts, blending in. None of them were dressed like the Ayatollah, get real.
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    And neither of you works for the media, either.

    People in a position of power (and yes, media is powerful) should be held to higher standards, wouldn't you agree?

    It's ok to be a jerk in private life, it's not as ok to be one in public.
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    Although I agree it is WRONG to feel and think we should be more afraid when we see a Muslim get on the same plane as us, the fact is, we do feel that way. Not just me (as in white male), but people like Juan Williams (African-American male) as well.

    Humans can't help what we feel. I believe most Americans think "Muslim" when we read, think or hear the word "Terrorist/Terrorism". White, black, brown, Christian, Jew or atheist...that's what we feel in America.

    So, do you think we just keep it to ourselves and not talk about it?

    BTW....and I'm off on a tangient here...but African-Americans were pissed at Muslim terrorists after 9-11 just like caucasian-Americans. That's the fault of Muslim terrorists and not "our" fault.
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