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2 Tackles, 2 assists and a sack.
Could he actually turn it around for the Pats?
Yes i think he is fat enough to maybe work out here.
Hello JS goodbye M. Hill.
Sullivan and Wright make the team. Klecko didn't do anything and Hill's nowhere to be seen.
very encouraging. If coaching can turn this kid around ... it could be
a very good move by PATs.
i think sully has nowhere to go but up from here. he makes the team and deepens the dl even further. i hope we have a monster on our hands.
For me, he made this squad the day he passed his physical (now that was a difficult task). He has improved every day since then. He has a tremendous amount of talent and easily replaces Hill's 2005 contribution.
We now how a solid set of DL backups: Green, Sullivan, and Wright
I would consider the trade a success if he can adequatley spell Vince 6-10 downs a game. From there who knows? The kid can obviously pay football, hopefully he can get a little confidence back.
I'd add Santonio Thomas to that list, though BB could try to sneak him back on the Practice Squad to keep Klecko as Green's third down specialist back-up.
Don't forget, this guy was a pretty high #1 pick. He certainly has the talent, he just needs his brains to catch up with that talent.
Hope Le Kevin can stick on the PS too.
I think Lekevin Smith is a lock for practice squad. Santonio has looked good enough to be poached by 3-4 teams, I've had him #6 behind Wright, but if Sullivan is getting turned around by this locker room, then he's a major talent and needs to be on the roster. I just remember how he man-handled Mankins last season.
Here's hoping for that all first round 4 man front.
i'm happy for him
two good games (ARI and WSH)
PFW thinks Sully is a waste. Looking at him I do not agree that he looks like a "tub of goo" at all.
There is no doubt that he was a young man who thought he had it made withhis multi-million dollar rookie contract. Getting demoted to second string by the old Saints Caoches serves as a partial wakeup call. Getting shipped ou tof town by the new New Orleans coashing staff had to wake him up alittle.
Arriving in New England only to find that they gaver him a weight to report and he did showed that the coaches were getting through to him. finding out that the Pats wanted more than just him reporting at weight, befopre they would even let him practice, had to be another wakeup call.
Seeing himself look really poor as he was constantly chop blocked by Atlanta and no one cared, or sympathised, had to be another wakeup.
I think that the NE staff has awakened him.
It helps that they don't want all that much from him other than a few rotation blows for Wilfork helps too. His currenrt conditioning or lack of it still lets him go full tilt for a few snaps. He doesn't have to pace himself or play while tired as a starter would.
He can spend a season backing up and the lockeroom players riding his butt and he might actually be pretty good next season.
You can always lose the fat around the waist once you lose the fat between the ears.
Looks like he's made the first step.
To me he has already worth his value of the trade. Bethel just strained his MCL and hasn't done a thing for NO Saints.
You and I are on the same page regarding Thomas.
Last night I actually saw Sullivan hustle. I never thought I'd see that.
When I was down to TC I watched him and Vince do some warm ups. Sullivan was dogging it- just going through the motions. Vince , you could tell, was doing his with a purpose.
Has the light finally come on for Sullivan?
Sullivan will turn out to be a score.
He has played ball and was drafted high for a reason.
He just needs to focus now-he hard a rough start here and issues in NO, but our line will benefit from him.
That's what JimmyJames meant by "if he can adequately spell Vince." He didn't mean give Vince a breather. He meant, spell "Vince."
All that said... after his inaugural dumba$$ stunt, I was so ready for Sullivan to just wash out and go away. But he looked good against Washington, so, prognosis is good (enough) to keep him around. And away goes Hill -- who has been all potential no production (Wah. I wanted him to be Seymour in training.)
Yup looks like Hill doesn't even make this team. Wright is looking good and surprisingly Sully has come on. You've gotta love the Pats DL situation right now. Even our second stringers were manhandling Washington's offensive line.
Wasn't there supposed to be a hearing about a week ago on the charges against him? He was looking forward to the chance to vindicate himself. Did anyone hear the outcome?
(It disgusts me that I pay this much attention to trivia.)
If Sully can keep his crap together, he almost makes the team by default at this point. We have to have a back-up to Wilfork, and Smith is not there yet. Thomas looks like another Warren type DE to me, and Wright is most definitely a DE, in body type.
We need Sully and he needs us.
What would please me greatly is if somebody forced him to run gassers every day for the entire season and into the off-season. Like Woick.
Sorry, Klecko, Love Ya', but I want some girth on the line of scrimmage.
I think Sey and Ty and Vince and Jarvis and Wright and Klecko have been the turning point for him. It's that old club mentality, you want to be one of us, you eat the worms and do the same things we do. Pees might be a Parcell's-lite motivator, but I'm more inclined to believe that getting away from Haslett's losers and seeing how a real champion prepares has been the floodlight showing him the way. Now, let's hope he gets addicted to winning.
I Liked Sullivan
Sullivan is a long way from a finished product or a dependable NT. He made a bunch of plays out of the 4-3 alignment. When in the 3-4 he's been pushed around a good bit. He still has to prove to me that he can anchor, read, shed and flow properly before I'm appointing him the second stringer.
I will admit, he looked a ton better in game three than he ever did in game 1.
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