John Clayton: Pats Talking with Raiders About Derrick Burgess

[KDPPatsfan85]

Maybe this trade is taking a while because they are working on a new contract for Burgess??? Or do they do that after the trade?

 

[spacecrime]

More fuel about this trade possibly going down!

Patriots reportedly interested in linebacker Derrick Burgess - Projo Pats Blog

Wow, it's hard to believe they will give a second and a third for this guy when he has one year left. What did they give for Ted Washington for a year? Wasn't it a fourth?

 

[eom]

there is no way they give a second for that dude, and the third would have to be 2011.

 

[The_Riddler]

Wow, it's hard to believe they will give a second and a third for this guy when he has one year left. What did they give for Ted Washington for a year? Wasn't it a fourth?

A 2nd AND A 3RD ???? Are you kidding me ??????? NO freakin way, BB is not that stupid. I would rather develop Crable on his rookie contract and keep the picks.

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

A 2nd AND A 3RD ???? Are you kidding me ??????? NO freakin way, BB is not that stupid.

No, they will receive a 2nd OR A 3rd for Burgess.

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

why is everone so up in arms when it comes to picks, its not like Belichick uses all his draft picks..

 

[Frezo]

No, they will receive a 2nd OR A 3rd for Burgess.

The whole thing doesn't ring right. If the Pats sign Burgess to a new contract, you'd think it will carry at least a 2 or 3 mil cap hit. Does that leave enough money left to sign the rooks and still have a 1 mil injury cushion?

Maybe, (I'm just thinking out loud), they'll sign him to a 3 year contract and trade him, Green and Kaczur for...pick one of Suggs/Peppers/Dansby. I know that sounds whacked, but I'm just trying to voice the possibility that the Pats might be trying to do a sign and trade. :confused2:

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

No, they will receive a 2nd OR A 3rd for Burgess.

A second would be a really bad trade. A 3rd should be the highest the Pats go.

 

[bagwell368]

A rent a player with a fair contract isn't worth a 2nd, and isn't worth a 3rd, unless they play a certain amount of snaps.

I would offer a sliding scale of 3rd-6th pick. 6th being cut or injured for year before season starts. 3rd for > 18 plays a game/ave. Others in the middle.

 

[JDSal45]

I was under the impression there was a possibly outstanding 1.5m roster bonus.

hey -- where are the player contract details on nflpa.org?

You have to sign up for the site to be able to view contract details.

J D Sal

 

[JDSal45]

Not true.

Burgess's roster bonus would be the Pats responisbility if it comes due after the trade, and it isn't likely the Raiders will pay the bonus and then trade him.

EDIT: Think back to the timing of the Vrabel trade and who paid his roster bonus.

Yes, that is correct. I meant previously paid bonus money. I'd be surprised if the Pats assumed an outstanding roster bonus though, unless he extend.

J D Sal

 

[BradyFTW!]

I'm probably the closest thing to a Ben Watson fan on this board (as in: I don't think that it was a terrible pick, and I think that he's a serviceable starter at TE), but I would have no problem at all with a Watson/Burgess trade. As others have stated on this thread, Watson is exactly the kind of guy that Al Davis loves, and we have plenty of guys at the position.

 

[BionicPatriot]

Please god let it happen. At least the pass rush would be better.

 

[Patjew]

A second would be a really bad trade. A 3rd should be the highest the Pats go.

Please help me to understand why that is. In my mind, if this guy could be the last piece for a championship (IDK if he is) and since we already have 3 2nd rounders, why not take a flyer on him even if the cost is a 2nd?

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

First it was ESPN then it was Christopher Price and NOW Mike Reiss

Reports: Pats eyeing trade for Burgess - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com

 

[Feep50]

Remind me again which second rounder picks we acquired? Ours, Tenn and ????

 

[LoganMankinsPancakeBlocks]

Remind me again which second rounder picks we acquired? Ours, Tenn and ????

The Jaguars.

 

[SVN]

2nd rounder maybe a bit too much..

 

[Feep50]

The Jaguars.

Thank you.... LMPB! So presumably 3 mid to high second rounders.... Offer them ours, that should be the 64th pick!

 

[WhiskeyBreath]

why is everone so up in arms when it comes to picks, its not like Belichick uses all his draft picks..

He uses the picks he doesn't want for better ones next year.