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    Clayton just reported on 'The Huddle' that the Patriots are in "the middle stages" in talks with the Raiders about trading for Derrick Burgess. Says talks have been ongoing for @3 weeks. Says "put it on your radar," Burgess as outside linebacker for the Pats.

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  2. HEY BRO! WHAT UP?

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    I'm up in the air with this one. When healthy, he's a really good player. If people have their doubts about Peppers fitting in, the same can be said about Burgess.
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    I like this rumor- would love to see Burgess on the Pats.
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    This makes sense to me. As of now, Banta-Cain, Redd and Alexander (or Appleby) have roster spots. I am glad that Belichick is trying to do better, or at least trying to bring in someone to compete for roster spots at linebacker.

    I'm glad that we are negotiating for Burgess. I hope that we are also talking to Napolean Harris or another ILB.
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    Well, Caserio pretty much came out and told everyone they were looking to trade for an LB during his recent Q&A session so it's a plausible rumor.
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    People don't think. THey had doubts about Taylor playing 3-4 OLB and he's done already under Saban.

    I had concerns about paying Peppers $17 MIL, not about his abiity.

    Don't know about Burgess. Don't really know much about him.
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    Derrick Burgess

    Sack totals career- 8 years- 47.0 Sacks

    Highest sacks total for a season- 2005- 16 sacks


    Hes proven as a DE but can he make the switch to OLB. BB knows something we dont so if we get him well BB will mold him!! This guy would be a short term solution because hes already 30.
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    i'm not sure why he only had 2.5 sacks last year. I hope that we don't give up too much for this guy. If we have a SB ring in this season, it's worth it.
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    Maybe because he is being double team, as do the Raiders have any other pass rushers??

    And I think the last Raiders who came to us have done ok ;)
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    Well I would not get to excited about it, John Clayton is reporting it..
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    i would like this if it happens when healthy he can get to the QB just as good as peppers both of them play DE and we dont if they can play OLB but pepper would cost a lot of money and a first round pick Burgess will be here for no more then a 3rd round pick and sign for about 2 million a year
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    cmon pats get him signed!
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    This would be a nice, under-the-radar move. Wonder if Burgess did something to impress Belichick during Super Bowl 39.

    As much as I look forward to seeing what Crabel, Redd and Woods can do, I will feel much better having a legit pass rusher out opposite Thomas, especially on 3rd and longs.
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    I'm not saying he's a great player, but it definantly makes the defense better with 2 capable pass rushers.
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    didn't the raiders just tie up a ton of money in this guy or am I thinking of someone else on defense?
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    no, I believe he's in the last year of a 5 year $17m deal.
    he's been wanting a new deal for, like, the last 3 years, but I don't think oakland ever caved.

    ps

    maybe you're thinking about the corner --- nnamandi assasmokah.
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    No, he is in the last year of his contract.

    Article about Raiders salary cap

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    This was an April 24th question to Mike Reiss in his column that he apparently didn't answer but this question was posted nearly a month ago - Question number 5 in the link provided - Patriots to Tweet draft picks - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com.

    Unless losing Jason Taylor means anything regarding this rumor, I would say that a deal would have been done by now if this possible trade or interest came up in late April.

    The Eagles will probably scoop him up
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    I would imagine oakland's been shopping him for quite some time considering they're right at the cap and he's in the last year of his deal.

    I don't imagine it should take much to get him, but who knows with the raiders --- maybe they're asking a first.
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    Oakland ran a 3-4 defense a few years ago, coincidentally when Burgess had his best years on the team. So I'm sure it's not a question of whether he can play OLB or not, since he already has. Burgess is also the ideal size at 6-2, 260.

    Wouldn't mind giving up another second day pick for an instant starter.
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    If we trade for him we are on the hook for his salary which is $3.5 mil, so I assume he will be a better OLB than Vrabel?
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    I thought Al Davis was never going to deal with the Pats again?

    If this does happen, I expect NE will pay more than we're thinking just as an ego tax...
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    Wouldn't be a bad pickup, he's become my 3rd choice to get behind Peppers and Taylor and considering one is gone and the other is looking more unlikely as the days past, I can back the Pats making this move.
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    maybe miami just signed taylor to trade him to us.
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    FWIW........Burgess lists Randy Moss as one of his best friends on his my space page.
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    Haven't paid seen much of this guy. (I avoid Raider games even on my Sunday Ticket). What's his scouting report? Speed rusher? Bull rusher? Both? How is his coverage skills?
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    I would love this move and would actually much prefer over Jason Taylor.
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    he's already played the position, and he's so tough to stop when he's healthy that he would regularly get double teamed.
    coverage skills are also good.

    I suppose one concern would be health, as he missed almost half last season w/some kind of triceps injury, and I think he also missed some time in '07, but you could probably have that concern about almost anybody in the nfl.

    I think his salary in '09 is only 2m, so he's very affordable, but he doesn't seem to be in the raiders long range plans, and he's probably gone after this year, anyway.
    although, if he manages to stay healthy the whole year I would have thought the comp pick would be about as much as they get in a trade, but maybe he's really worth more than that.
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