Discussion in 'NFL Football Forum' started by SanAngeloState, Dec 4, 2011.
Yup, they will lose to the Giants and then Miami will put the final nail in the coffin. A perfect ending.
No backing in the playoffs this year for Fatso and his boys.
I'm sorry, but I fail to see the logic. According to your well established thesis they have an awful defense, and will not be able to win a playoff game as a result. Therefore, they can't possibly choke from your point of view, they can only overachieve. Please be consistent, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
I think your math's wrong re BAL vs. NYP for the Conference tiebreaker.
Both the Pats (BUF and PIT) and Ravens (JAK and TEN) already have two conference losses.
All of Baltimore's remaining opponents are AFC teams (IND, SD, CLE, CIN); so, if "they go 3--1," that would give them a 12--4 record with three conference losses.
The Pats face three AFC teams (DEN, MIA, BUF) and one NFC team (WAS). So, if the Pats end up "dropping one of these last four," it would depend on where the loss was. Were they to lose to the 'skins and run the table against the AFC teams, they would end up 12--4, but with only two conference losses they would own the tiebreaker; if the loss came against an AFC team (in this case the Broncos in Denver, because I'd bet the farm that they won't lose at home to either BUF or MIA), they would be tied with Baltimore for this tiebreaker.
The next tiebreaker would be "Best Win-Lost-Tie percentage in common games, minimum of four," which Baltimore would win if they defeat both IND and SDC down the stretch (they would be 5--0 vs. PIT, NYJ, PIT, IND, SD) and the Pats would be 4--1 against the same four teams). If a 12--4 Ravens team had one of its remaining losses against either IND or SD, they would go to the next tiebreaker, SOV, which I just don't have time to calculate at this point.
The one scenario you don't consider is Houston running the table, beating CIN, CAR, IND and TEN and ending up 13--3. But my head already hurts and I can't spend any more time on this.
The bottom line is what I always say at this time of year when we all start these silly assessments more than a week or two from the end of the season. "Win this week. Then worry about the next game and let the stuff we can't control take care of itself."
Well, they could win against the Jets, who aren't very good. That is probably the only team they could beat. Maybe the Texans and 50/50 on the Raiders. But they're only an almost sure thing against the Jets. I say almost, because there's always the choke factor.
the Pats already beat the Raiders....IN Oakland...31-19....what else you got?...
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