Jets Suck -- 2016 Edition (Official): Futility Confirmed

[Joker]

The stupid green bastids drafted a special teams size LB who immediately declared himself THE Gronk stopper....perfect Jet...long on mouth ..short on brains and talent

 

[AtomicDawg]

The stupid green bastids drafted a special teams size LB who immediately declared himself THE Gronk stopper....perfect Jet...long on mouth ..short on brains and talent

Little did he know, he forgot about the other big, tall TE the Pats have. One named Martysaurus.

 

[Ross12]

 

[Tunescribe]

About the Green Beans' "meh" first-round project from NFL.com:

Smallish linebacker. Play strength doesn't come close to matching puffed up listed weight. Balance issues at point of attack could plague him over his NFL career. Has the body type of a big safety. Tape shows few authoritative tackles. Involved in too many arm and shoestring tackles. Comes flying in and fails to come to balance at times. Charged with 21 missed and five broken tackles over the last two seasons. Always at size disadvantage and will have to learn to slip more blocks. Can get better at finding targets in zone coverage.

"His weakness is if you cover him up against a big body, he will struggle." -- Mike Mayock (Patriots have a few of those on offense )

Bottom Line
Lee's level of NFL success might very well be tied to scheme fit and his ability to add more muscle to his frame. His athletic traits and ability to make plays should make him a starter, but he won't unlock his full potential unless he gets strong enough to handle the rigors of an NFL linebacker.

 

[Tony2046]

About the Green Beans' "meh" first-round project from NFL.com:

Smallish linebacker. Play strength doesn't come close to matching puffed up listed weight. Balance issues at point of attack could plague him over his NFL career. Has the body type of a big safety. Tape shows few authoritative tackles. Involved in too many arm and shoestring tackles. Comes flying in and fails to come to balance at times. Charged with 21 missed and five broken tackles over the last two seasons. Always at size disadvantage and will have to learn to slip more blocks. Can get better at finding targets in zone coverage.

"His weakness is if you cover him up against a big body, he will struggle." -- Mike Mayock (Patriots have a few of those on offense )

Bottom Line
Lee's level of NFL success might very well be tied to scheme fit and his ability to add more muscle to his frame. His athletic traits and ability to make plays should make him a starter, but he won't unlock his full potential unless he gets strong enough to handle the rigors of an NFL linebacker.

I think he mixed up his Ski's.

He must of meant he was drafted to cover Gostkowski .

 

[Bill Lee]

This really sucks for the SOFJ fans -- they can't even claim the one trophy within their reach, the Off Season Winner's Trophy.

 

[Rusty Griswold]

Hilarious that a journeyman QB now has the leverage on the Jets. I actually think the Browns are a perfect fit for him. Give RG3 some under the radar treatment for at least 1 year, if not 2, and keep rebuilding.

Sure, you'd overpay him at around 12-14 mil per, but keep the contract good and clean, with maybe the 2nd year as an outright option year for the club, and go that route.

Also, QBs always get hurt somewhere in this league in camp or preseason.

 

[Rusty Griswold]

About the Green Beans' "meh" first-round project from NFL.com:

Smallish linebacker. Play strength doesn't come close to matching puffed up listed weight. Balance issues at point of attack could plague him over his NFL career. Has the body type of a big safety. Tape shows few authoritative tackles. Involved in too many arm and shoestring tackles. Comes flying in and fails to come to balance at times. Charged with 21 missed and five broken tackles over the last two seasons. Always at size disadvantage and will have to learn to slip more blocks. Can get better at finding targets in zone coverage.

"His weakness is if you cover him up against a big body, he will struggle." -- Mike Mayock (Patriots have a few of those on offense )

Bottom Line
Lee's level of NFL success might very well be tied to scheme fit and his ability to add more muscle to his frame. His athletic traits and ability to make plays should make him a starter, but he won't unlock his full potential unless he gets strong enough to handle the rigors of an NFL linebacker.

I think he's that Rover Safety in the NFL, though. In other words, they've drafted him to be a cover Linebacker since it's a passing league. So, BB's acquisition of Martellus Bennett is the reason why this pick occurred ON TOP of already having Gronk here.

You need size and physicality upfront in slot situations, but the player has to be able to move very well in space, too, which is what they hope out of this kid.

Let's be honest, it's a passing league, so you need CBs, Safeties and LBs that can cover, even if you sacrifice run D at times.

My issue, if I was a Jets fan, would be using that approach for someone in Rd 1. The Jets need cornerstone players at too many positions to be dipping into specialty roles.

A Safety who can move and measure up vs the passing game (Pryor can't move outside the box), as a mini-LB is needed.

We have Jamie Collins, I think McClellin is a good example of someone who can cover pretty well as a smallish in space LB player as well.

This guy reminds me of a better version of BB's choice of Matt Wells last year. He's a very poor man's Kam Chancellor, essentially.

No way that is worth a top 20 pick in Rd 1. Classic Jets.

 

[AtomicDawg]

OK, we're getting a bit too intellectual here...let's show Jest fans sonething they can actually comprehend...

 

[Tunescribe]

I think he's that Rover Safety in the NFL, though. In other words, they've drafted him to be a cover Linebacker since it's a passing league. So, BB's acquisition of Martellus Bennett is the reason why this pick occurred ON TOP of already having Gronk here.

You need size and physicality upfront in slot situations, but the player has to be able to move very well in space, too, which is what they hope out of this kid.

Let's be honest, it's a passing league, so you need CBs, Safeties and LBs that can cover, even if you sacrifice run D at times.

My issue, if I was a Jets fan, would be using that approach for someone in Rd 1. The Jets need cornerstone players at too many positions to be dipping into specialty roles.

A Safety who can move and measure up vs the passing game (Pryor can't move outside the box), as a mini-LB is needed.

We have Jamie Collins, I think McClellin is a good example of someone who can cover pretty well as a smallish in space LB player as well.

This guy reminds me of a better version of BB's choice of Matt Wells last year. He's a very poor man's Kam Chancellor, essentially.

No way that is worth a top 20 pick in Rd 1. Classic Jets.

Yup, he's a situational specialist. They might've been better off drafting a pure safety.

 

[Clonamery]

Yup, he's a situational specialist. They might've been better off drafting a pure safety.

They definitely would have been better off losing it for tampering with Revis....

 

[Rusty Griswold]

Yup, he's a situational specialist. They might've been better off drafting a pure safety.

I agree. Pryor is a traditional in the box kind of Safety like Chung. Physical, but past 15 yards, there's problems in coverage.

And that's an insult to Chung because Chung is a far more cerebral player than Pryor. Pryor has a 10 cent head and is physical. That's about it. He has poor lateral movement, which is why he's really only a traditional SS.

20, 25 years ago he would have been an ideal top 15 draft pick.

 

[JetFan79]

Good afternoon Pats fans,

All this talk of the Jets' pick... what about the Pats' pick? (Sorry low-blow.)

So when our pick was announced I was initially relieved not to hear "and with the 20th pick, the Jets select... Paxton Lynch."

But I'll admit, I then had to take a few minutes to investigate Lee. I don't follow college ball at all so I had only heard of Lee a little bit and those youtube highlight vids with **** music don't help much. Most mocks had him going in the early teens, so I never even looked at him. Hell, when Tunsil was available and the Saints were up, I was hoping we somehow jumped up to snatch him before Miami (sounds like we tried).

BTW, if many of you were part of the NE blackout, ya missed an "entertaining" draft. All the Tunsil and Jack drama was interesting (plus the normal Goodell booing).

No surprise I suppose, but I love the pick. He's a Money-Linebacker. Aka, $LB. Easily the coolest position name on the field. So there's that right off the bat.

Wtf is a $LB you may ask. Good question, and I still don't have that exact answer. But it requires SPEED and some size. A hybrid LB/SS.

At best he's Bowles's Revis. Just as Rex needed 24 to make his D great, Bowles needs a good $LB to make his schemes click. Just like when Arizona drafted Buchanan in the 1st. And there are plenty of other smaller LBs who fill a non-traditional role who are making big impacts. They help against the new NFL offenses that spread ya out.

Take for example you guys. Remember the fist Jet/Pat games last year? The Pats passed like 90+% of the time! My guess is BB realized attempting to run vs our D was a waste (and it was). So he spread it out with lightning-quick passes.

The Jets certainly don't lack power on D, but could unquestionably use quickness.

Enter Lee. Take these fun facts:
Dion Lewis 40: 4.57
Darron Lee 40: 4.47

That speed is gonna come in handy. He can cover, tackle, fly sideline to sideline and blitz. With as fast as Brady gets rid of the ball, getting to him quickly is many times the only option. Will he be a "David Harris" who can bang with the linemen?... hell no! But that's not what this D needs now.

So yeah, of course any draft pick can bust, but I think he was the BPA, helps tremendously with quickness on D, while also filling a big need for Bowles's scheme.

Please feel free to tear the pick to shreds and say I'm wearing green tinted sunglasses. It's good to get opposing feedback.

 

[Bill Lee]

Hilarious that a journeyman QB now has the leverage on the Jets.

If the Jets had any backbone at all they'd get Hoyer's asking price (presumably a lot less than Fitzy) and give Fitzy 24 hours to accept what's on the table or piss off.

 

[Tunescribe]

Good afternoon Pats fans,

All this talk of the Jets' pick... what about the Pats' pick? (Sorry low-blow.)

So when our pick was announced I was initially relieved not to hear "and with the 20th pick, the Jets select... Paxton Lynch."

But I'll admit, I then had to take a few minutes to investigate Lee. I don't follow college ball at all so I had only heard of Lee a little bit and those youtube highlight vids with **** music don't help much. Most mocks had him going in the early teens, so I never even looked at him. Hell, when Tunsil was available and the Saints were up, I was hoping we somehow jumped up to snatch him before Miami (sounds like we tried).

BTW, if many of you were part of the NE blackout, ya missed an "entertaining" draft. All the Tunsil and Jack drama was interesting (plus the normal Goodell booing).

No surprise I suppose, but I love the pick. He's a Money-Linebacker. Aka, $LB. Easily the coolest position name on the field. So there's that right off the bat.

Wtf is a $LB you may ask. Good question, and I still don't have that exact answer. But it requires SPEED and some size. A hybrid LB/SS.

At best he's Bowles's Revis. Just as Rex needed 24 to make his D great, Bowles needs a good $LB to make his schemes click. Just like when Arizona drafted Buchanan in the 1st. And there are plenty of other smaller LBs who fill a non-traditional role who are making big impacts. They help against the new NFL offenses that spread ya out.

Take for example you guys. Remember the fist Jet/Pat games last year? The Pats passed like 90+% of the time! My guess is BB realized attempting to run vs our D was a waste (and it was). So he spread it out with lightning-quick passes.

The Jets certainly don't lack power on D, but could unquestionably use quickness.

Enter Lee. Take these fun facts:
Dion Lewis 40: 4.57
Darron Lee 40: 4.47

That speed is gonna come in handy. He can cover, tackle, fly sideline to sideline and blitz. With as fast as Brady gets rid of the ball, getting to him quickly is many times the only option. Will he be a "David Harris" who can bang with the linemen?... hell no! But that's not what this D needs now.

So yeah, of course any draft pick can bust, but I think he was the BPA, helps tremendously with quickness on D, while also filling a big need for Bowles's scheme.

Please feel free to tear the pick to shreds and say I'm wearing green tinted sunglasses. It's good to get opposing feedback.

Here is all you need to know: Jets suck.

 

[1960Pats]

Let me see if I have this right.

Ryan Fitzsomething leads the Jets to their most wins in 5 years and 5th most wins in their entire 55 year history, and they only want to pay him half of what most NFL starting QB's make.

That's so Jet-ish.

 

[Bill Lee]

 

[Tunescribe]

Hot damn! The Green Beans reached for another bad quarterback prospect to ruin! And wasted a second-round pick on him to muddy the waters further with Fitzpatrick and Gee-No!

Thank you Woody, Cro-Magnon and the Bowels Movement!

Jets take a flier on Hackenberg as QB of future

From the link: Opinions on Hackenberg's NFL prospects are all over the map. He regressed mightily the past two years after a impressive freshman season under Bill O'Brien with the Nittany Lions. Although the 6-foot-4 Hackenberg is a prototypical pocket passer with an effortless motion, his accuracy and mechanical issues are obvious red flags.

 

[AtomicDawg]

 

[AtomicDawg]

"Poor tape"???