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How can anyone cut slack when you come here and say you think the Jets have more talent?
On the doorstep of what? You havent even competed for this division in 7 years, and last year, when we didnt have Tom Brady, you were still 2 games behind us.
Please explain what talent you have added to your 9-7 team that made it surpass our 11-5 team that added the GOAT at QB.
If you were a Jest fan, you would want to get your bragging in before the game is played, too. They have learned that year after year their team is better on paper than on the field.
 
Our RBS are better
Our O Line is better
Our LBs are better
Our Secondary is better

The Patsies get the edge at QB and WR. oh and kicker and punter.

D Line is a toss up.

What i am saying is this, if you could build a team using both rosters, there would be more Jets starting that Patsies.

The Pats have better overall talent. I would disagree that the d-line is all that close. Jenkins is great, but can't seem to stay together all season. Ellis is up and down. Whoever the other starter may be is not exactly great. The Jets have no depth at the position. Yes, losing Seymour puts it closer, but the Pats still have the edge there by a good amount.

As for RBs, Jones and Washington may be better invidual RBs, but the corp as a whole is not better. The Pats ran for 274 more yards than the Jets last year without Taylor or Maroney. The Pats had one more rushing TD. The Pats had 51 more rushes for first downs. The Jets had 5 more fumbles by rushers than the Pats. The Jets had a better YPC by 0.3 YPC and had two more rushes for over 40 yards than the Pats.
 
Before I go, I want to just say the Jets fans are going insane. On their forums they are calling this an EASY win :p

Hmm..... lets see....

You have a ROOKIE quarterback in his 2ND NFL START going against Belichicks defensive schemes.

Last time Brady played you in september, he carved your defense up like a pumpkin. The last 5 minutes shows the power of the offense.

Yet, you guys are acting like your the AFC favorite LMAO.


So what if the Jets fans, especially on their own forums, think this is going to be a cakewalk?

I think that they have very good reasons to think so.
 
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The Pats running backs aren't even close to as good as the Jets. Not even close, having a bunch of marginal backs doesn't make a formidable stable. Thomas Jones led the AFC in rushing last year and Leon Washington would start on NE.

The Jets O Line is one of the best in football.

Mayo is hurt and both Scott and Harris are better MLBs.

Your D Line is not deeper, you've traded away that depth for a 1st round pick in 2011

Pure. Comedy. Gold.
 
Lets look at this game objectively, it is 2009 a whole new season. Neither the jets or pats made the playoffs last year.

My observations from last nights game:

Brady looked a little rusty in the beginning but flourished under pressure.

The pats offensive line a is a cause for concern. The Bills pass rush which is not really good at all was able to penetrate and rush brady/ hit him on a number of occasions.

The defense seems to have a taken a few steps back. Maybe the loss of seasoned veterans hurts the D, it certainly looks like it. The bills second string runner, was able to carve up the patriots defense on runs and short screens. TO was neutralized, but the other recievers were making great medium ranged catches that move the ball down the field.


now for next week, The patriots offense faces a defensive line vastly superior to the bills, a line that includes that 365 pound monster, Jenkins, and pro bowler Sean Ellis, the jets best pass rusher back fresh from a one week suspension. The linebackers are also better than the Bills, Bart Scott and David Harris were beasts in Houston. And lasty, the secondary which is one of the leagues best, the shutdown corner, Revis, Lito shepherd, another pro bowler who had a pick last week, a great Blitz safety in Rhodes and the former Raven leonard who had a great year with Baltimore.

The patriots o line better be up to the task of protecting Brady on every single down, they cannot afford to take a down off in regards to effort, the Jets will be blitzing over 50% of the time. Brady also needs to get comfortable not having moss to throw to. Revis makes it a habit to shutdown #1 WRs, just talk to Andre Johnson with his 36 yards. Brady will need to utilize Welker, and Watson more so in this game than he will, Moss.

The running game of the pats had under 80 yds rushing combined between their runners against the Bills defense which ranked 22 against the run last season. The Jets only allowed 38 yards rushing this past week, facing the AFC's second leading rusher from last year. The patriots will need to use the pass to set up the run, not the other way around which is more common in the NFL.

The Pats defense is going to face two far better running backs than the Bills 2nd stringer Jackson who managed to get around 140 yds with his 15 rushes and 5 recepetions.
Thomas Jone will be the power runner up the middle and on the goal line, while Leon is a threat in whatever he does, whether he returns a kick, gets a hand off or catches a pass. He was the NFL leader in all purpose yardage last season.

The Jets may not have star recievers but they have capable ones. Cotchery, Stuckey, and the TE Keller all hovered around 100 yds receiving each. The pats wont be able to completely discount the passing game and focus all in on the run.

thoughts?
 
Pure. Comedy. Gold.

maybe the funny thing is that you actually dispute what hes saying. The patriots do not have a running game. Their running backs look like they should be collecting social security at this point. They are not even that diverse running style wise. where as Jones and Washington are the opposite types of running backs. Jones is the tank, leon is the speedster. Jones led the AFC in rushing last season, and Leon led the NFL in all purpose yardage.

The Jets offensive line is top 2 in football second only to the giants by most estimations.

Mayo is only in his second year. David Harris and Bart Scott are better linebackers at this point.

Your defensive line is not nearly as good as you attempt to make it out to be. Losing seymour will hurt big time.
 
.....thoughts?

1.) Jets fans, as they so often do, are putting far too much weight on one win.

2.) The Jets offensive line is overrated by Jets fans.

3.) Lobster and prime rib make a great Surf & Turf combination

4.) The Jets might be catching a break, because Mayo could miss the game.

5.) A slice of cheese can really make or break a sandwich.

6.) The Patriots are integrating a lot of new players, especially on defense.

7.) Brady looked much better in the second half.

8.) Roger Goodell is a terrible commissioner and the NFL officials are horrible.

9.) The Jets are going to be very physical under Ryan.

10.) If towns are going to require dogs to be leashed at all times, they should set up a dog park so the dogs have a chance to run free somewhere.
 
Pure. Comedy. Gold.

Yes, it was an award winner.

I wonder what it's like to get your hopes up in September year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year
after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year ( forty times since 1969) only to get your balls punched in every December.

It must suck.

A lot.
 
1.)
The Jets might be catching a break, because Mayo could miss the game.

Just like game 2 last year when they caught a break when Brady was out.

Just like when they hired Mangini away from the Patriots.

Just like when they hired Parcells away from the Patriots.

I could go on, but you get the drift.
 
maybe the funny thing is that you actually dispute what hes saying. The patriots do not have a running game. Their running backs look like they should be collecting social security at this point. They are not even that diverse running style wise. where as Jones and Washington are the opposite types of running backs. Jones is the tank, leon is the speedster. Jones led the AFC in rushing last season, and Leon led the NFL in all purpose yardage.

NFL Stats: by Team Category

The Jets offensive line is top 2 in football second only to the giants by most estimations.

I've not seen those estimations. I have seen the two lines in recent times, though, particularly last season.

Kaczur > Woody
Neal > Moore
Mangold > Koppen
Mankins > Faneca
Light > Ferguson

Mayo is only in his second year. David Harris and Bart Scott are better linebackers at this point.

Harris is better than Mayo? Look down to your side, I think you'll find a midget named "Tattoo" staring up at you.

Your defensive line is not nearly as good as you attempt to make it out to be. Losing seymour will hurt big time.

And, yet, while I agree with you about the loss of Seymour and it's impact upon the line, it should still be better than the Jets' line, even before we get into discussions about depth.
 
It's been 40 years for the Jets ... gotta give them some room to flex their lungs for now.
 
Jets fans acting like they know football. How funny.
 
8.) Roger Goodell is a terrible commissioner and the NFL officials are horrible.


lol, those new roughing the passer rules were made for Brady, everyone knows that! We can't let stars get hit hard anymore :rolleyes:

Brady's got two rules under his belt, the tuck rule, and now the quarterback is made of glass rule.
 
Jets fans arent use to REAL football discussion. Alll they do on their board is

"Tom Brady is gay"

"Cheatriots"

"Belicheat sux1!"

"Patriots sux!"

90% of their threads
 
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Lets look at this game objectively, it is 2009 a whole new season. Neither the jets or pats made the playoffs last year.

My observations from last nights game:

Brady looked a little rusty in the beginning but flourished under pressure.

The pats offensive line a is a cause for concern. The Bills pass rush which is not really good at all was able to penetrate and rush brady/ hit him on a number of occasions.

The defense seems to have a taken a few steps back. Maybe the loss of seasoned veterans hurts the D, it certainly looks like it. The bills second string runner, was able to carve up the patriots defense on runs and short screens. TO was neutralized, but the other recievers were making great medium ranged catches that move the ball down the field.


now for next week, The patriots offense faces a defensive line vastly superior to the bills, a line that includes that 365 pound monster, Jenkins, and pro bowler Sean Ellis, the jets best pass rusher back fresh from a one week suspension. The linebackers are also better than the Bills, Bart Scott and David Harris were beasts in Houston. And lasty, the secondary which is one of the leagues best, the shutdown corner, Revis, Lito shepherd, another pro bowler who had a pick last week, a great Blitz safety in Rhodes and the former Raven leonard who had a great year with Baltimore.

The patriots o line better be up to the task of protecting Brady on every single down, they cannot afford to take a down off in regards to effort, the Jets will be blitzing over 50% of the time. Brady also needs to get comfortable not having moss to throw to. Revis makes it a habit to shutdown #1 WRs, just talk to Andre Johnson with his 36 yards. Brady will need to utilize Welker, and Watson more so in this game than he will, Moss.

The running game of the pats had under 80 yds rushing combined between their runners against the Bills defense which ranked 22 against the run last season. The Jets only allowed 38 yards rushing this past week, facing the AFC's second leading rusher from last year. The patriots will need to use the pass to set up the run, not the other way around which is more common in the NFL.

The Pats defense is going to face two far better running backs than the Bills 2nd stringer Jackson who managed to get around 140 yds with his 15 rushes and 5 recepetions.
Thomas Jone will be the power runner up the middle and on the goal line, while Leon is a threat in whatever he does, whether he returns a kick, gets a hand off or catches a pass. He was the NFL leader in all purpose yardage last season.

The Jets may not have star recievers but they have capable ones. Cotchery, Stuckey, and the TE Keller all hovered around 100 yds receiving each. The pats wont be able to completely discount the passing game and focus all in on the run.

thoughts?


Pretty good, pretty good.

I think the Pats should come out in the hurry-up offense and utilize Welker with those easy dump-offs. An lb on Welker should be a mismatch highly in the Pats favor. Also, the Jest will try to punch you in the mouth - just punch 'em back and don't roll over and play like sissy's (you know, like Houston).
 
Lets look at this game objectively, it is 2009 a whole new season. Neither the jets or pats made the playoffs last year.

My observations from last nights game:

Brady looked a little rusty in the beginning but flourished under pressure.

The pats offensive line a is a cause for concern. The Bills pass rush which is not really good at all was able to penetrate and rush brady/ hit him on a number of occasions.

The defense seems to have a taken a few steps back. Maybe the loss of seasoned veterans hurts the D, it certainly looks like it. The bills second string runner, was able to carve up the patriots defense on runs and short screens. TO was neutralized, but the other recievers were making great medium ranged catches that move the ball down the field.


now for next week, The patriots offense faces a defensive line vastly superior to the bills, a line that includes that 365 pound monster, Jenkins, and pro bowler Sean Ellis, the jets best pass rusher back fresh from a one week suspension. The linebackers are also better than the Bills, Bart Scott and David Harris were beasts in Houston. And lasty, the secondary which is one of the leagues best, the shutdown corner, Revis, Lito shepherd, another pro bowler who had a pick last week, a great Blitz safety in Rhodes and the former Raven leonard who had a great year with Baltimore.

The patriots o line better be up to the task of protecting Brady on every single down, they cannot afford to take a down off in regards to effort, the Jets will be blitzing over 50% of the time. Brady also needs to get comfortable not having moss to throw to. Revis makes it a habit to shutdown #1 WRs, just talk to Andre Johnson with his 36 yards. Brady will need to utilize Welker, and Watson more so in this game than he will, Moss.

The running game of the pats had under 80 yds rushing combined between their runners against the Bills defense which ranked 22 against the run last season. The Jets only allowed 38 yards rushing this past week, facing the AFC's second leading rusher from last year. The patriots will need to use the pass to set up the run, not the other way around which is more common in the NFL.

The Pats defense is going to face two far better running backs than the Bills 2nd stringer Jackson who managed to get around 140 yds with his 15 rushes and 5 recepetions.
Thomas Jone will be the power runner up the middle and on the goal line, while Leon is a threat in whatever he does, whether he returns a kick, gets a hand off or catches a pass. He was the NFL leader in all purpose yardage last season.

The Jets may not have star recievers but they have capable ones. Cotchery, Stuckey, and the TE Keller all hovered around 100 yds receiving each. The pats wont be able to completely discount the passing game and focus all in on the run.

thoughts?

Excess glue-sniffing is bad for your mental health.
 
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So what if the Jets fans, especially on their own forums, think this is going to be a cakewalk?

I think that they have very good reasons to think so.

Good reasons to think they can win? Sure. To believe it's going to be a cakewalk takes a special kind of delusion or giddiness however.
 
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