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    Looks like the Jets are about to trade Kendall to another team, ending their bitter contract dispute that has been a sideshow in camp.

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    The good news for the Pats is it means that either journeyman Adrien Clarke or rookie 6th-rounder Jacob Bender (out of Nicholls State, where they ran the triple option, so pass protection is new to him) will take his place. Bender is starting their preseason game this week.
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    From what I have read or heard from several sources that covered the team was that Kendall helped hide a lot of mistakes for D'Brickishaw Ferguson and his overrated rookie season. Ferguson had a lot of problems in pass protection. He gave up 10 sacks himself. This could be big trouble for the Jets' offense.
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    It's definitely going to put a weaker player on the line in Kendall's place; however, the Jets are making a good move with a statement at this time very similar to the Pats and a certain WR who was under contract last season. It's the only way to get control of future issues with other players. While I'm not completely familiar with all the issues surrounding Kendall's unhappiness, it appears that the team is not going to lie down and be held hostage by a player under contract. Looks like they're taking a page out of the Pats'/Steelers' books.
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    #24 Jersey

    He was a rookie, rookies have to adjust too.
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    I'm a little confused by this assertion. Didn't both Branch and Kendall get exactly what they wanted by making nuisances of themselves and becoming huge distractions until their teams agreed to trade them? I don't see how either case sets a good precedent of "control of future issues."
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    what's the over/under on Noodlington suffering a season-ender if Kendall gets traded?

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    They kinda had too after that b*llcrap he pulled in the exhibition game.

    Much as I hate the JEST, that move put a real sour taste in my mouth for Kendall. Business is business, but footbal is football.
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    The issue isn't what a precedent means to the players, but to the team.

    If you set a precedent for forced renegotiation, the team gets nothing in this exchange when other players follow precedent. What happens to the player is irrelevant. What was the team net gain by doing it? They end up with the same player they already had, and less cap room. At best a zero net gain, more likely a negative result. Repeat that a few times and you're in trouble.

    If you trade a guy, however, you're setting only a precedent that a player can be sent off for very good trade value in return. In that case, the team is getting great value in exchange. It does matter what kind of trade precedent you set. If it's a panic deal then it's as bad as a renegotiation. But with Branch for example, you got a 1st round, which was a big return - about 1000 points gain on the draft value chart. A young cheap 1st rounder for someone who developed at a lower pick is a huge net gain for any team. That's a great precedent to have! Repeat that a few times and you're restocked and reloaded for many years to come, if not indefinitely.
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    When you factor in :

    - Game 1 vs. one of the best defenses in the league

    I would say the over/under is about 1.5. And I may take the Under.
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    I think what they did was harsher than what the Pats did in the past playing hardball. Kendall last year took a paycut with the promise if he had a good season, they would take care of him this year (at least according to him). He had a very good year last year and then the Jets said they weren't redoing his contract.

    Kendall did tell the press that he was upset with his contract, but did not hold out. The Jets in turn "accidentally" put him in the freshman dorm and then made him a back up center (a position Kendall doesn't like to play, but has been willing to do if the Jets needed him to which they don't).

    The Pats play hardline with their players, but they don't do petty crap like put disgruntled veterans in the freshman dorm or demote them to back up at positions they don't typically play. That isn't hardline, that is somewhat childish. I don't see the Pats ever doing things like that to a player.
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    Come on! It wasn't like the Jets are innocent here. They started the crap by insulting Kendall by putting him in the freshman dorms (what are we in high school and Kendall got banned from the cool table at lunch) and demoting him to back up center. If Kendall did purposely muff the snap, he is definitely wrong (he did fall on a fumble the play before so I don't know if people are just making too much out of that snap). But the Jets are just as bad as Kendall if not more.
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    I really don't agree with this. I think that what happens to the player is tremendously important to the team because it influences future decisions by other players. Both Branch and Kendall had signed, legal contracts they didn't want to abide by. Branch succeeded in wriggling out of his and it looks like Kendall's about to do the same. What a huge incentive to other players who decide they don't like the deal they signed to kick, scream, badmouth management, hold out, and snap balls over the QB's head.

    I think I preferred the precedent set with Ty Law where they let him shoot his mouth off to the media, ignored it, and had him back in camp come July.

    That said, the Kendall situation was just plain ugly on both sides. The rookie dorm stunt, for instance, was totally counterproductive. That dysfunctional marriage clearly had to end.
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    I understand that, but people are making too much out of his rookie campaign. Mangold was great as a rookie, but Ferguson was mediocre. Many felt he would have been far worse if Kendall wasn't there. I'm talking Jets beat reporters who watch every game.

    Ferguson may end up being an All Pro at that position, but currently he is far from it (well at least what he was at the end of last year) and could be a liability without Kendall to assist him.
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    Which bullcrap was that?
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    He had a couple of bad shotgun snaps. Many people think it was on purpose. Which may very well be true.
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    There are a lot of indications coming out of the Jets camp that Mangini hasn't mastered the fine line of being a hardass without being an ass.

    Everyone knows he controls his organization tightly, so his saying he didn't orchestrate the dorm-room thing is disingenuous. He may get in hot water over fining players for talking about injuries. He and Moorman fought tough with Revis and came out of that with a pretty questionable contract and long delay in getting a very good player into a secondary greatly in need. So many bad decisions in such a short time.

    The whole Pete Kendall episode isn't helping matters. It almost seems as if his mimicry of Belichick is more about image than substance and that he needs to re-make himself in an image more suited to his own philosophy, whatever that is.
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    PFT reports he's been shipped to Washington.
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    I agree. Belichick may be firm, won't budge from a negotiating position, and will lead with a firm hand; but he is never disrespectful with players. I think Mangini could lose the lockerroom pretty quickly if the Jets' season doesn't go well.

    I'm sure players are not happy the way the disrespected Kendall by insulting him by putting him the freshman dorm. It is one thing about playing hardball about not giving him a new deal or cutting him. But it completely different to play petty games while you hold onto him so you can trade him or avoid cutting him so Miami picks him up.
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    That makes sense.

    Washington lost Dockery to the Bills and none of the replacements have been too stellar, from what I've been reading.
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    Kendall has been declared persona non grata by 2 teams now. I think he's going to be traded to the worst team they can find (Oakland maybe?) and he's *still* not going to get a raise. Especially if anyone thinks he was goofing up on purpose. Can you say UNPROFESSIONAL?

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