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  1. NE_PATS_FAN_54

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    Pats Will Give Him A Physical, exchange contract info Per Michael Holley at WEEI.

    few notes on walker:
    packers reportedly want a 1st, no one of offering that
    he has already visited new orleans, denver(reportedly)
    he tore his acl last year did not play at all last year
    played with deion branch in junior college
    is in last year of contract
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    If we could get him for a reasonable draft choice with a reasonable contract and combine it with re-signing Branch I would be the happiest man in the world (well, tied with a bunch of you).

    I would give up our #2 IF the contract was decent enough that we could still re-do Branch. Walker, Branch, Caldwell, Watson, Graham would be the weapons we need to have our Ferrari QB to really hit the gas on the open road.
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    #75 should do it. He's coming off an ACL tear and wants a new contract. That seems like 3rd rd value...
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    NOOOOOOOOO.......
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    :confused: Why not ???
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    it seems as though a 3rd rounder wont do it. i could see maybe something like picks next year along with that or something of that standard. but with new orleans and denver in the mix(denver has a boat load of picks) it will be difficult to get him for just a 3rd.
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    Does GB really think they can get a 1st here? I know their FO is inept, but c'mon.
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    Depends on what the new contract would look like. The more the cap hit, the less the draft choice I'd give up.
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    yea, according to the new orleans paper:
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    A pick this year and next is extra do-able as we're pretty much locked into some good comp picks with Givens, Vinatitraitor and Ashworth signing big deals and us not signing many to counter balance them.
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    Man, Favre done got their minds all messed up.
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    I wonder if that means straight up or if it means a #1 for Walker and a pick back from GB.
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    Inept!?!?!? Lord Favre runs everything there...........he is the inly player allowed to miss mandatory training sessions. Great way to set an example Brett...........he SUCKS!
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    He sure is somethin.
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    i think it is safe to say that GB will not get a 1st rounder from the pats. i doubt the saints would give their 1st rounder(4th overall!), and i think that denver wont give their no.1( no.15)
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    I think you're overrating Javon Walker. He had one good year, tore his ACL, quit on his team. and wants a big contract. I doubt anyone will trade a 2nd rd pick for him.
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    Now that Favre is coming back, GB has NO chance to win this year. They should just settle for a 4th round this year and 3rd rounder next year and rebuild.
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    This obviously is something we are serious about.
    ITs going to come down to A) what other teams will offer. BB will not make the highest offer until its do or die. B) where Walker wants to play. He cant be traded if he wont sign a contract.

    The interesting thing is his price will come down on Sunday.
    I think BB would be willing to pay a 2nd (but maybe next year) or a 3rd.

    It seems that GB isnt very interested in a 2007 pick since there is such a flurry before the draft.

    Tough spot for BB if he wants him. He can sit tight and see the price drop, or just pay what it takes to secure him.

    Very interesting, and IMO, very telling about how BB feels about his WR position (telling once we see what he actually does).
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    Saints are at #2 overall & GB is at #5. They could conceivably swap the picks in exchange for Walker. The Saints have been rumored to want to trade down for weeks. The Packers would love to get Mario Williams.
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    3rd this year and conditional pick next year.
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    That would be a terrible trade for the Saints. To jump up to #2 would normally take the Packers the #5 + #18 picks in the draft.
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    re

    The Saints seem like a good trading partner. They can swap #2 with #5 (with additional picks thrown in), or trade a lesser pick and Dante Stallworth. Same thing with the Broncos (swap #15 and other picks) and Lelie.
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    The bar has to be set a little higher than that on the contract. We have the money to re-do Branch, no question... we could re-do Branch and spend like idiots on Walker, no question... but we need to set his value somewhere reasonable (by the Pats' model.) There are other fish in the sea.

    I think somewhere in the $5M/annum range is doable, same as Deion, with a stellar physical/workout. And a good deal of that money has to be tied to playing time, not given in salary and signing bonus. He can't expect the risk burden to fall on the Pats.

    If the Broncos or Dolphins are willing to pay him like he just came off that 2004 season, let them. He just came off a torn ACL, gentlemen... let's keep that in mind.

    PFnV
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    No one has put out the possibility that it is the day before the draft. Perhaps bringing in Walker for a closer look, and peddling the serious interest lines, is smokeshow for a grander scheme?
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    I love Branch, but when both Walker and him are healthy Walker is in a completely different league as Branch. I don't see hpw the Pats could offer them similar money. Walker is a bonified #1 while Branch is a marginal #2 and #1. If that happned then either Walker is being underpaid or Branch is being overpaid.

    P.S.- If I were Belichick during this meeting with Walker in Foxboro I would wear all my rings and casually scratch my head while standing in front of the trophies case with Walker.
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    I agree Branch is not a stud #1, but he is an incredible #2!
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    Yeah, Branch is a fantastic #2 and a marginal #1 IMO.
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    I wouldn't put it past Belichick to show interest just to make Denver up their ante. But I would imagine our interest is real.
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    It might be, but unfortunately its also "unzipping our fly" to a degree as BB's interest in an injured former #1 WR illustrates his feeling that the Patriots want to address a need at WR (even though many think we have no need there)

    So if the Walker deal DOESN'T go down there are a bunch of competing GMs out there who will be counting the Pats as a team eyeing 1st round WRs prompting them to potentially move ahead of us or counter a move by the Pats to jump forward in the draft.

    As far as Walker himself, while no one's been a bigger proponent of addressing our need at WR than I, an ACL tear is nothing to just cavalierly shrug off and assume Walker is in 2004 form.

    We might well be outbid but I would offer the Packers a 4th or 5th rounder this year and a conditional pick for the 2007 draft... one that could be as high as our 2nd rounder if Walker performs to near 2004 levels.
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    I don't think it would take a genius GM to expect the Patriots to be looking at WR in the draft. But if they're jumping ahead of us to "steal" the blah first round WR that are in this draft, I doubt Belichick will be too upset. I wouldn't be stunned if we took a first round WR but I surely don't expect it.
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