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Jason Taylor’s pain shows NFL’s world of hurt, by Dan Le Batard

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    Makes Barry Sanders look like a genius getting out while you still can.
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    One of the scariest articles I've read yet. And not a single word about concussions or the state of Taylor's brain. It was scary as hell WITHOUT THAT.

    I don't know, dude. I just don't. And he says he'd do it all again. The game is an addiction.
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    Hell, even Brady's talked about peeing out blood on Monday mornings. :(
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    sure hope he can manage to survive the rest of his life on the millions of dollars he made while he played.
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    Given what's in that article, he can have it. I've no envy or desire to trade places.
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    Many players died in their mid 50's, i always check the age, when i read the news that an Ex-football player just passed away (usually a small box inside the paper, not in the first page), and i agree with your statement.
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    Scary, but not at all surprising to me. I watched Any Given Sunday, they did some homework and kinda got a clue to how those players did anything to play the game. Which brings me back to the CTE cases, yeah there's plenty of concussions, but we're talking about players playing on drugs, likely living on top-notch pain killers throughout the season just to get through the day, probably abusing street drugs when they can't get it from the personal doc or the team doctor anymore. Abusing alcohol, who knows what else they do in their top dollar lifestyles. Combine head injuries and drug abuse and sure some 30 old's brain would look like that of a 120 year old's. There's nothing fixing helmets and softening up the game can do about that.

    CTE didn't kill Seau. Depression killed him. Drinking, unemployment and undisclosed pain from previous injuries and a desire to escape from it all is what killed him, unfortunately.
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    Everytime someone posts about how the league is being pussified they should read an article like this.
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    Wow, that was frightening to read.
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    I recently saw a news video clip featuring Earl Campbell who was sponsoring some sort of award. He could hardly walk and was using a walker. Did a search on the web, and found that his physical deterioration is due to all his football injuries. I love football, but seeing this made me wonder if I was a hypocrite. I found myself asking if I would enjoy watching gladiators fight to the death in the arena.
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    EVEN IF it comes under the heading of too little, too late... any steps to try to mandate safety for the players is a positive one.

    EVEN IF the teams clean up their practices, they might have to go even farther to get the players to clean up theirs.
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    I get what you are saying, but football players are being paid millions to do something they CHOOSE to do. Gladiators were slaves.

    Anything to make the game safer is a good thing, and the "pussification" folks are clueless. However, the gladiator analogy is weak.
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    A sobering and thought provoking article.


    Makes you realize how enjoying the NFL is like the old saying about enjoying sausage, just don't think about how it's made.
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    You can ssee him on this video:
    "Still Standing: The Earl Campbell Story" screens for UT Athletics [Nov. 25, 2012] - YouTube
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    Forgive me offering a slightly different reaction here. First off, I love Dan Le Batard. He's a unique voice in the media these days....but let's understand one thing about Dan....EVERY stance Dan takes is pro player/anti owner,team, or league. That's the niche he has cut out for himself and he has worked this to a level where he is now the national go-to guy for players to get there message out. Think early Ron Borges when considering the kind of slant Le Batard consistently brings to the media. In Dan's sports world, talent rules and coaches are irrelevant.....and the players eat this up. Dan wants to be the Oprah of sports media.

    So while reading his moving piece about the horror inflicted upon these warriors, understand the level of modulation Dan is dialing up here. Receiving a pregame shot in the foot turns into a macabre tale of terror. Having read and listened to Dan for 15+ years in S. Florida, I know his work well and how careful and effective he can be with his use of adjectives to paint the picture he wants to paint. The man is talented.

    Knowing how Le Batard is, and how media conscious Taylor is, this piece has agenda written all over it. Maybe Taylor wants to be the poster child/recipient as lawsuits heat up vs the NFL. One topic Le Batard neglected in his piece was free will. Funny how that works.
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    I'd be inclined to take that view... if dozens upon dozens of other similar stories didn't exist out there to hardly make Taylor's story sound implausible.
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    I'm not disputing the treatments these players endured to last in the league. I'm just saying, Le Batard is the perfect author to pen the most sympathetic account....and just by reading the reactions to it, he succeeded masterfully.
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    Part of this issue with some players, Taylor included, is you've made your millions, you're best years are behind you, yet you keep playing for 3-5 more years which results in meaningless money, avg play, and increasing risk of life long injuries
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    It's true that we don't know all the details, but you're just speculating here. What we DO know is that CTE results in progressive brain damage from glutamate toxicity. Among other changes, you suffer personality changes that can make you interpret situations in extremes. Glutamate toxicity also causes severe anxiety. You have a hard time with executive function, making things like planning, organizing, and decision-making very difficult. Even if you're not depressed, your baseline stress can be relentless. Major life challenges that are difficult for "normal" people to get through can push you over the edge.

    There isn't a whole lot of empathy or sympathy. You appear to function pretty normally, so people assume your problem is purely psychological, which typically comes with less concern. People think you can just take a pill, think positively, and "pull yourself together".

    In cases of people like Seau's, they also have to deal with all the people out there who dismiss the pain because it was Seau's choice to play and he made a lot of money. His choice and his money don't make him any less human.
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    Sure gives context for how the concussion issue could be neglected for so long.
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    Are people surprised by these stories? What these players do and go through is not natural and would easily kill regular people. It is extremely brutal and nothing other than pain and injuries, short and long term, can result from them. So imagine doing this week in and week one for years?

    I remember a few years ago when I first started watching football, I heard that players' life expectancy was around 57. That alone tells you how violent this sport is and its effects. In this day and age, people don't die in their 50s naturally.

    Is this sad and painful? Yes. Is making rules to protect the game good? Yes. But let's not kid ourselves? How many people would walk away from watching football to avoid these players injuries and pain?

    The most telling thing about this article? Taylor's last sentence. The fact is players, no matter how much pain they need to endure, no matter how much data they hear about the side effects of what they do, they will still play and we will still watch.
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    Study: NFL players living longer than general population - CBSSports.com

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    well...there's an "ooops" for the sanctimonious know-it-alls- to ponder.

    I have a B.S, from B.U. in engineering...I worked for different concerns until I retired when I was 58. I've made some prudent investments in real estate and I'm comfortable. Over the course of my work I had a number of six figure years as well as mid and high five figures.

    That being said,my entire life's earnings to this point is about 1/50th of what Jason Taylor has made in his career. If I had a problem making everyday decisions, I, MYSELF, would hire someone to take care of these necessities. However, let's not even begin to use THAT to punch holes in this "tragic" story.

    "Census 2000 counted 49.7 million people with some type of long lasting condition or disability. They represented 19.3 percent of the 257.2 million people who were aged 5 and older in the civilian non-institutionalized population -- or nearly one person in five..."

    that figure has risen with the aging of the baby boomers. Jason Taylor is in pain?...uh....well....there's 99.999% of the people who are in pain that have never and will never have the funds to address THEIR disabilities in the fashion that Jason Taylor can.

    You play football and play to get into the NFL, YOU KNOW the risks.You want my tears after it's over, sorry....I already gave in the form of supporting your league and your salary as a fan.Instead of playing "Undercover Mongoloid Commissioner" and running around trying to create straw man controversies, perhaps Doltdell can sit down with the owners and establish protocols for, and treatments of these players post game problems.

    Leave ME out of it.
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    Football players know the bad side as do soldiers.

    It comes with the territory.

    And no, I don't equate football to a war.

    Every job has it's dangers.
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    OT Jason Taylors Pain Shows NFL's World Of Hurt

    Amazing what NFL players will do to make sure they are on the field on Sunday's.

    As America’s most popular sport encounters a liability problem … as gladiator Junior Seau kills himself with a shotgun blast to the chest and leaves his damaged brain to study … as awareness and penalties increase around an NFL commissioner confronting the oxymoronic task of making a violent game safe … and as the rules change but the culture really doesn’t … we think we know this forever-growing monster we are cheering on Sundays. But we don’t. We have no earthly idea.

    Read more here: Dan Le Batard: Jason Taylor’s pain shows NFL’s world of hurt - Dan Le Batard - MiamiHerald.com
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    Re: OT Jason Taylors Pain Shows NFL's World Of Hurt

    That Taylor suffered routine pain and complications off the field doesn't surprise me; The human body wasn't meant to absorb the punishment these guys do. What surprised me was the degree he suffered and still played. Seriously, a concealed catheter? So close to having a leg amputated? Good God.

    Regards,
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