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    Until Rodney and Seymour come back in about 1/4 or so into the season (IF Seymour comes back amid reports) there are 2 guys on the team who are replacing seasoned vets and both players (injured and suspended) of whom are top dogs in their respective positions and those 2 replacement guys whose play will be crucial to the success of this team early and its future down the line is James Sanders and Jarvis Green whom I expect will respectively man those 2 spots vacated by the drug suspended Harrison and injured Seymour.

    If you had to pick one of these 2 replacement guys Sanders and Green,who's play do you think is more crucial than the other in order to keep the team afloat and winning? - Does Jarvis or James have the tougher job of the two to hold down the spot until the regular comes back?

    To make the question easier in perspective - Which of these 2 guys has the tougher job of manning the respective position for these several games?
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    Jarvis is more important, Sanders has the easier job.
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    Both of them are important.
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    I KNOW BOTH ARE IMPORTANT - BUT - IF YOU HAD TO PICK ONE.....
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    Jarvis Green hands down
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    'Hands Down' which is what Defensive Ends usually do with thier hands at the LOS ;) - Thats funny..although I know what you meant ;)
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    I agree, Green.............

    Luckily, of the two, I think he's most capable to rise to the occasion. Of the two anyway (not taking anything from Sanders either).
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    Our defense is predacated on on pressure from our front seven. Green is more important. I feel that as long as the front seven can pressure the QB and plug all the holes, the secondary personnel can be average.

    I do think Sanders could make the next step this year regardless though.
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    Well if I have to choose, I think Sanders is more important.
    He will be taking over Harrison's role, and we all know how important Harrison is to our secondary. Can he step up and be a leader? Can he make the right reads and calls? Can he intimidate and be a physical presence in our defensive backfield?
    Those are the unknowns.

    I believe that Green is more than capable of filling in for Seymour. He's done it before. Besides he's got Warren and Wilfork with him.
    Yes Wilson will be back there with Sanders, but Wilson has never looked very good without Rodney, IMO.
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    we lasted with Sanders at asfety last year..we've lasted with scrub secondary. our front 7 dominates which si why we make plays and stopping the run is our game.

    if Green can do as well as he has in the past..we'll be fine. if he doesnt..then teams will run on us and our secondary could get exposed or just put on an island for a long time and let teams drive up and down

    our front 3 is most important part of the D. i will take any1 from front 3 over anyone playing behind.
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    It's close, but I think Sanders is more critical - this could be skewed by my relative faith in Jarvis to do the job, since he's done it so well in the past, and also by the dominance at that position in general.

    Sanders is back there, the QB of the D, with Eugene Wilson who in the past has struggled a bit in Rodney's absence, Ellis Hobbs who is solid but still young, and Asante who hasn't practiced (much) or played in 8 months.

    Good thread, by the way.
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    Green is far more important IMO. As someone else stated, our D starts & ends with our front 3. If they excel, the LBs & secondary look that much better.

    Sanders can play as great as he wants, but if there is no pass rush or he is tackling RBs 15 yards downfield, it won't matter.
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    Tom, a little cooler tonight, huh? Looks like the temp will be lowering in the coming days. We shall overcome.
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    Ha. No kidding. I was amazed when I drove over the hill from work in Santa Monica and it was but a brisk 80 at 7pm. :)
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    It all starts at the front. Jarvis Green is the more important. But the onus is really on Warren and Wilfork to continue playing like the Pro Bowlers we know they should be. If that happens, the front seven will be solid.
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    Isn't Merriweather ( in know I can't spell) taking Harrison's spot?

    Either way, Jarvis is more important. He's filled in just fine before, he'll do it again.
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    No question its Sanders

    Jarvis Green can start for like 75% of the teams in this league. Where Sanders is a true backup.

    The difference between Seymour and Green isnt as great as it is between Harrison and Sanders.
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    Obviously both are crucial, but I think Sanders is more important at this point.

    Here's why:

    We KNOW Green can fill in for the injury-prone Seymour. He has had PLENTY of experience doing that and has always performed well. Now counting 2007, Seymour has only played 16 games twice in 7 seasons, including sitting out for the crucial playoff run in 2003. (Remember Jarvis' game vs. the Colts in the AFCC?)

    Even if Jarvis was a little off - which I guarantee he WON'T be, because the guy is the consummate pro - he has Wilfork and Warren, and possibly even Adalius Thomas, to pick him up a little.

    Sanders has done an admirable job filling in for Harrison the past two seasons, but he is being asked to anchor the secondary against two teams that have high powered offenses (San Diego & Cincy) and another team with a coaching staff that knows our defensive systems and tendencies (NY Jets).

    Not to mention that Sanders plays in a position where a bad mistake can mean 6 points for the other team.

    For those reasons, Sanders will be worth watching more closely than Jarvis Green.

    All that said, I really like this kid, and I think he is going to be just fine.

    Harrison's misfortune could be a window of opportunity for guys like Sanders & Meriweather.

    Jonesin' for Sunday!

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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    what is this notion that Sanders is a 'true backup'?

    Sanders will be fine back there. Jarvis will be fine up front. The DL is far more important than the DB in the NEP scheme, so Jarvis' position and performance will be more important.

    true backup...what a joke...
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    Re: James Sanders or Jarvis Green - Who is more crucial in the first 1/4 of the seaso

    True Backup meaning he likey wouldnt start for any other NFL teams at the moment. I personally also dont think he will be our long term answer once Harrison is gone.

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