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    Re: Jags Collier shot and Fred Taylor Arrested - The Jags are having a bad week.

    Thoughts and prayers for sure.

    That said, will they ever learn? I know it's a free country and the bill of rights guarantees the persuit of happiness. But the average NFL career pays millions and is generally over before your're 30 something. Why risk it for any reason?

    Goodell would be better served to institute a league wide curfew. That wouldn't have saved Jason Taylor though, so perhaps in addition, rather than focusing on expanding his product world wide, Roger should consider increasing the size of practice squads to 53, quadrupling their pay and arming them and assigning them to guard the 53 on the active rosters 24/7. His approach to cleaning up the league ignores the fact that we live in an increasingly ramdomly violent society.
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    Re: Jags Collier shot

    Nothing good ever happens after midnight. It's certainly not Collier's fault that he was shot...just sounds like the wrong place at the wrong time. I hope he makes it.
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    Re: Jags Collier shot and Fred Taylor Arrested - The Jags are having a bad week.

    You mean Sean Taylor, yes?
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    Re: Jags Collier shot and Fred Taylor Arrested - The Jags are having a bad week.

    LOL Yup... Nothing can save Jason since he lost the last championship he had a shot at...
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    Re: Jags Collier shot and Fred Taylor Arrested - The Jags are having a bad week.


    LMAO!!!!

    Best wishes for a full recovery to Collier!
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    Re: Jags Collier shot

    Couldn't believe this news when I first saw it. I hope he makes it through. :(
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    Re: Jags Collier shot and Fred Taylor Arrested - The Jags are having a bad week.

    Sean Taylor was shot in his home when people broke in while he was sleeping.
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    Re: Jags Collier shot

    Wow! That really sucks. I really hope he makes it through this.
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    Re: Jags Collier shot

    I'm sorry to hear this. Just awful...
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    Re: Jags Collier shot

    The guy was drunk and asleep at a McDonald's drive-thru, which got him a DUI recently.

    Now he's hanging outside the apartment of girls he just met at a night club @ 2:45am, the week before the season begins?

    Some people have downright garbage judgment and lack common sense. This is what unfortunately happens.
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    Re: Jags Collier shot

    The latest was that he was critical but stable..hopefully he will improve. Prayers are with him.
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    Re: Jags Collier shot

    Since when does going to a girl's apartment that you met a nightclub qualify you as a potential shooting victim? Am i missing something?
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    Re: Jags Collier shot

    If you're a football millionaire standing outside a random girls' Jacksonville apartment complex @ 2:45 in the morning you're just not displaying good judgment.
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    Have to agree here. Not good judgement at all. Again, not his fault that he was the victim of a crime. Simply wrong place at the wrong time, but it was his poor decision making that led him to being outside a girl's apartment complex at 2:45 AM.
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    Re: Jags Collier shot

    I hope he gets better
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    Re: Jags Collier shot

    Have they said anything more about a motive? Was it random or was he targeted by someone?

    This is getting ridiculous. Sean Taylor last year, the two players from Denver the year before. Now this. :(
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    To those saying: HE SHOULDN'T BE OUT AFTER MIDNIGHT, Collier was supposedly in westside, Jacksonville at the time of the shooting. That's far from the worst place in the city (that being the northside). This really just sounds like a freak shooting.
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    Get well soon. Thoughts are with him and his family
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    Re: Jags Collier shot

    Exactly. Relatively speaking he wasn't exactly in a horrible neighborhood.
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    Yes let's all damn the man for seeking out female companionship.
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    In the recent sad rash of violent crimes against NFL players, something keeps striking me. As soon as the first report comes in, fans on messageboards--others even more than this one--rush to berate the victim for somehow bringing it on himself.

    Out on the city streets in the wee hours and got robbed at gunpoint? Totally irresponsible, he was asking for it by being in that place at that time of day. Asleep in his own bed when armed assailants broke into his home and shot him dead? He always seemed the thug type, you reap what you sow. Sitting in a driveway in a quiet residential neighborhood at 2:00 am on your day off when somebody shoots multiple bullets into your body? What terrible judgment, when will these guys ever learn.

    I'm thinking it's time to read up on the "just world" fallacy.
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    In terms of just the NFL, we're losing some outstanding players to apparent random acts of violence. Are they random though? I have no idea; someone would have to compile stats of some kind I suppose, but it seem the number of players involved in a shooting of some kind just keeps rising.

    It's sad and I hope the NFL takes a long look at possible solutions from a league perspective anyway. The league can't dictate everybody's friends, activities, and behaviors but going forward I hope they can become more proactive in somehow avoiding these tragedies.

    Thoughts and prayers are with him. Last I heard he'd had surgery and was listed as critical but stable.
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    I'm not much with numbers, but...

    There are approximately 1,600 NFL players. Most of these guys are going to be in major cities several months out of the year. With those odds it's probably just a matter of time. If you looked at some other business that had offices in 30 major cities across the country, probably a certain amount of them would wind up in the wrong place at the wrong time too; you just wouldn't hear about it because they're not as high profile.

    Just a guess.
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    Bingo. It really is amazing that this happens in every single case. Ther just has to be someway to blame the victim. Yet if he hadn't been shot, and somehow people found out he was outside of (gasp) a girls apartment at (gasp) 2:45 in the morning they wouldn't have thought twice about it being "poor judgement." What exactly about this displays poor judgment? Is it wrong to go to a girls apartment when you're 26? No. Is it wrong to stay out and have a good time until 2:45 am when you're over the age of 18? No. Someone please explain to me why anything about this displays "poor judgment."

    Come to think of it, just what the hell does "poor judgement" even mean? Is it like some wishy washy half-assed way of saying someone did something generally wrong but you can't really articulate what that is? I don't know a single 26 year old who doesn't go out that late, and who doesn't sometimes go to girls apartments late at night. Oh the season is a week away, that means it's time to stay home and play scrabble, then go to bed at 9:30 because it really makes a difference. I mean, they're "celebrities" and they make more money than us, so that means we own them and they aren't allowed to have regular lives right?:rolleyes:

    This blame the victim syndrome everyone has because they're professional athletes and that means that they are supposed to live like puritans or else they're gonna get shot is absurd. I guarantee that the same people claiming "poor judgment" wouldn't be saying the same if their friends was the one who was shot while out late at a girls apartment. Seriously, the guy was a victim of a shooting, VICTIM, that is all that needs to be said.
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    Ya, what he said. Now I don't have to type it. Thank you Wildo.
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