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    It's draft day and I've finally come around on Robert Woods. He's officially leapfrogged Justin Hunter for me. He's exactly what we need: an athletic, big bodied receiver that can work outside the hashes as well as make catches in traffic. If Belichick thinks he'll be there in the early second, he should try to pull the trigger on a trade that would net the Pats an extra early 2nd (before WR needy teams select in that round) and a 3rd. Plug in Robert Woods and then pick up Swope in the third round and we've rounded out this receiving corps with extra picks to select a pass rusher and build up the secondary a bit more.
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    Good man. Did you see the Stanford game I posted where he went up against Sherman?
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    I would be happy with Woods, although I wouldn't pair him with Swope. I don't see Woods as a pure outside guy, I think he is someone who you move all over the place and put the ball in his hands. I see him kind of like Percy Harvin with more of an ability to play outside. If we had him taking some snaps in the slot as well as Amendola and Edelman then I don't think we would have room for Swope (who I see as a primary inside guy). But pair Woods with a bigger outside guy like Da'Rick Rogers, Terrence Williams, Aaron Dobson or Marquess Wilson and I think it would be the start of a very good WR corps.
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    I saw a lot of games and highlights. What stood out to me as opposed to Hunter is that Woods looked like he had the better upper body strength of the two, and was able to get off jams more frequently against physical corners. Since that was a huge problem in the AFCCG for all receivers not named Welker, and since he is the type of receiver I have been calling for in this offense since that game, Woods leapfrogged Hunter to the top of my board for WR's.
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    I'd take most of those guys, but I like the speed that Swope brings in addition to Woods' physicality. Swope is capable of taking the top off the defense with that alone and would force his safety to stay back.
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    I read something from a knowledgeable poster from another site who says Robert Woods have a bad pair of Ankles which would require a year off. P.s. don't blame the messenger take it for what its worth. Woods was also the First WR Prospect I immediately fell in love with.
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    He had those issues over a year ago. His main issue last year was USC trying to force feed the ball to a younger WR.
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    I still like Wheaton a bit later. Maybe it's because his body mechanics mimic a young Branch only bigger and faster nut I'd be happy with a small trade back into the mid 30's to make sure they get him.

    I've watched more Woods and will admit he's dynamic and his YAC is nice.
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    I also love Swope who is a Bigger version of Wes Welker and like Welker, Swopes is the master of Double moves. I think Swopes is the Best Route Runner among all the WR's right now.
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    I like Woods as a player too. Here's a write up I did on him back in January for someone who asked:

    Robert Woods Draft Profile
    School: University of Southern California (PAC 12)
    Position: Wide Receiver
    Height: 6-1 Weight: 185 lbs Class: Junior
    Overview:
    Robert Woods, a consensus All American in high school, had his choice of college football programs to attend. Both his father and uncle played college football at Grambling but Woods, possessing far more talent, decided after a phenomenal high school career, to attend USC. He exploded on to the college football scene as a true freshman with 65 catches, 792 yards and 6 touchdowns, earning several Freshman All – American honors and PAC 10 (12) Offensive Freshman of the Year. Had Robert Woods been eligible for last April’s NFL draft (he wasn’t; as he was not 3 years removed from his high school graduation), he would have been a lock to be the first receiver off the board. Coming off a record setting sophomore season in 2011, Woods was a finalist for the Biletnikoff award in which he posted 111 catches, 1292 yards and 15td’s. Additionally, he was a semi-finalist for the Maxwell Award.
    However, in the spring of 2012, he suffered an ankle injury in a pickup basketball game that required arthroscopic surgery. The injury had a significant impact during the season and was one of the two main reasons his productivity and stock has dropped significantly from this time last year. While Woods should be recognized for his toughness and durability (he did not miss a game due to injury in his USC career), there is no question the ankle impaired his ability and explosiveness this year. Woods finished the season with 74 catches, 840 yards, 11 TD’s and a career low 11.5 yards per catch.
    The other reason for the dip in productivity was the emergence of Marquise Lee in the USC program. Lee, the dynamic, playmaking sophomore became quarterback Matt Barkley’s favorite target finishing the year with an astounding 118 catches, 1721 yards, 14 TD’s and 14.6 yards per catch.

    Strengths:
    Woods generally has good size for an NFL receiver. At 6-1 and 185 lbs, he possesses a lanky, long build that allows him to reach over smaller defensive backs and catch the ball away from his body. He uses his body well to shield himself from defenders to make the catch. He does an excellent job of catching the ball with his hands rather than allowing it to come in to his body. He is quite agile, lean and shifty and while he does possess pure speed, he is even quicker than fast.
    Woods runs the complete route tree and is exceptionally dangerous when he runs fade routes in the red zone. Woods is not afraid to run crossing routes across the middle either and often sacrifices his body to make the catch.
    He possesses very good speed. He has the ability to make defenders miss and pay for it by running away from them. Woods can take a 5 yard screen and turn it into a 60 yard touchdown. Woods was a track star in high school; placing 2nd in the 400m, 3rd in the 200m and anchored the state champion 1600 meter relay team his senior year.
    Woods demonstrates excellent use of his hands and has a knack for making the spectacular catch. In addition to his speed, good hands and agility, perhaps what makes him most attractive to the NFL scouts, is his versatility. In his USC career, Woods has returned both punts and kicks with regularity, having great success with both, earning All Pac 10 (12) first team honors in 2010.

    Weakness:
    NFL teams will certainly do a thorough check of Woods’ surgically repaired ankle to ensure there will be no future issues. Assuming the ankle checks out ok, this should not impact his draft stock significantly.
    In terms of other areas of opportunity, Woods could certainly gain some weight. One weakness that I saw on tape this year was that he struggled getting off the line in press coverage due to his lack of upper body strength. Certainly, in the NFL, this will only become more of an issue if he does not continue to gain weight and bulk up. If Woods can gain an additional 20 lbs without sacrificing speed or agility, it would significantly contribute to his game.
    Another question NFL teams will look to answer for themselves when they work Woods out will be to determine how much, if at all, his numbers were inflated due to top level QB play and the additional protection on the other side in WR Marquise Lee.

    Summary:
    Woods is a polished, complete receiver who possesses very good speed and hands. He runs excellent routes and has good size with a lanky frame. I expect him to put up very good numbers and measure out well at the combine which could improve his stock. With a very deep and talented wide receiver pool in this year’s draft, I expect Woods to be drafted in the late 2nd round.

    Compares To: Reggie Wayne
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    I saw that. That was what originally made him move up my draft board. I also watched a ton of footage on him and read Gil Brandt's write up yesterday and he's my new WR binky.
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    Outside of tavon austin, woods seems like the best at running those option routes we have grown accustomed to seeing welker run. But I also like the yac ability of keenan allen and patton just as much as woods.

    Lastly, I hate swope. He doesnt remind me of any other white receiver in the league that people try to compare him to. If anything he reminds me of our very own ebert with his somewhat slow cuts and inability to jump.
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    I might have mentioned it once or twice, but I'm a fan of Robert Woods.
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    I dissagree with your take on Swope and as the Wrestler the Rock says "It doesntmatter" what your name is.:D
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    Before Tavon Austin somehow flew up from late second round pick to top 20 pick, I really wanted him. I think we need to draft a WR in the second round. Would be okay with Woods being that guy.

    Somewhat of a tangent, but Austin is available at 29 I don't want him. He's fast, sure. Same exact story as Kendall Wright. Wanted him in the fourth and all of a sudden he's a top 20 pick. Had a solid rookie season, but these guys constantly get over valued because they run fast in a straight line without pads on and no worry of being walloped.
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    My problem with Austin is he really isn't a WR. 24.5% of his 'catches' were from the sweep screen play that Geno Smith tap to Austin on the sweep. When you adjust his stats to make those plays rushes which is what they really are, he ran the ball more than he caught it. Then even after adjusting those sweep screens out, over 1/3 of his catches were still screens and another 23% being caught at less than 5 yards. He really doesn't catch the ball down the field often so I have an issue calling him a WR. What he is, is a guy that is a nightmare with the ball in his hands. He is fast, explosive and a playmaker, I just don't think he does anything to fill the deficiencies our offense has.
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    Tavon Austin Sounds like a poor mans *Randall Cobb* *who is jack of all trades*.
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    I'm trying to figure out why I am so lukewarm on the guy. Pretty good combine,good hands,good route running. He's kind of a jack of all trades where he does everything well but not great. I keep telling myself if this was the 2012 draft he is a top 5 or 10 pick. Someone convince me.
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    Chevss, old friend. What brings you to this neck of the woods (excuse the pun) on this American should-be holiday?
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    Woods is the most NFL ready of any of these WR prospects not named Keenan Allen. Were it not for Allen's knee still being an issue, Allen would be my fav. As you said, I also like that Woods can use his hands at the LOS to work through press coverage. He has a very good downward swipe to disengage the defender's hands. Woods is also good at coordinating his feet with that downward swipe & uses his quickness to get past the defender into his stem very quickly. He's a fluid runner who runs great routes. He uses a multitude of moves and speed changes to set up his fakes. Defenders can't key on any one thing. Watch Woods against Richard Sherman 2 years ago and you see just what I mean.

    His technique is as polished and NFL ready as Allen's plus he'll make plays over the middle, against tight coverage, after contact or at the boundary and he'll get good YAC, too. He has the smarts and experience to be a dependable WR his first year for Brady. He'll do.

    If Hunter didn't drop so many passes, I could overlook the flaws in his technique since they are all fairly easily coached up. But catching the ball under pressure isn't easily coached up at all. There's also the issue of his 12 score on the Wonderlic. Would he ever learn the offense?

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