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Issa to Holder: "You Own Fast and Furious"

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    But what about the Koch Brothers? Ack! Issa is just being partisan! Nothing to see here.
     
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    Thought the grand inquisitor had already questioned Holder???

    Wonder if he will bring up "Operation Wide Receiver" also???

    When Issa became chair of this committee he indicated he was going to hold hearings every day on Obama and his administration.. equal justice for some.

    Many Republicans hoped Issa would use his post to embarrass the White House. He is an activist for corporate power, seeking ways to diminish the role of government and leaving individuals without the protection of government agencies.

    When he became chair he sent out word to the business community that he would investigate the regulations and agencies they pointed him toward. Not what his party wanted or what was best for his constituents needs. Where are the investigations into misconduct by government contractors in Iraq? Where are the subpoenas for the banking giants who caused a housing crisis and crashed the economy?

    Most of his work has produced nothing, except a bunch of paperwork and extraordinary costs.. so now he may have something on Holder and will stop at nothing to prove he did do something.

    Issa is the archetypal political thug. A part of the nihilist wing of the conservative movement. Accused of car theft twice.. but he tap danced his way out of it.

    A one dimensional political chess specialist, who is not about what is best for America.. but what is best for his career and his future amongst the corporatists, who he grandstands for.

    There is a need for a central policy shift that our government will no longer make efforts into other countries affairs without congressional approval.. no more Libya's, no more Fast and Furious and no more Wide Receiever. For generations we have had clandestine efforts in the mid east, eastern europe and south america, and usually they have reaped unintended consequences. This time it happened close to home and the results have been poor.
     
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    AP Story Leaves Out Key Point on Fast and Furious - Katie Pavlich
     
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    Holder is a criminal.
     
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    Everybody in this Obama administration has to go and fast, this country is in big trouble, big men can fall, remember Nixon.

    Bush lied about a war.
    Obama did nothing to correct it.

    Sean Penn you slimey little phony, did you hear me, the troops are still dying?

    We need a new President, we need a new 'everything'

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    "don't worry vinnie"
     
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    Guess the White House complied with the Subpoena.. unintended consequences, stupid is as stupid does..

    E-Mails Detail DOJ Concern Over ATF ‘Gun Walking’ Well Before ‘Fast & Furious’ | TPMMuckraker

     
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    This is a good investigation. Obama chose Holder because he leaned to the right, and thus would continue a lot of what his predecessor did. I hope Holder steps down, and Obama replaces him with someone more progressive, who will protect human rights and not allow reckless campaigns to go after illegals and drugs.
     
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    Please, by all means, keep posting.
     
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    Cool Issa...

    Although I think the Fast and Furious was a collosal F-up, on all levels, and that someone needs to be axed at wost, and exiled at best......I'm wondering what Issa ( and the rest of the lynchmob ) would say if Obama chose executive privilege on this thing?


    BREAKING: Bush Asserts Executive Privilege To Hide Global Warming Documents | ThinkProgress

    Bush invokes executive privilege for Rove in attorney firings | McClatchy

    Bush asserts executive privilege on wiretapping subpoenas - The New York Times


    They'd probably be cool with it, right? They were cool with bush using it.
     
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    How many people died in hiding the global warming documents? In the executive privilege of attorney firings and wiretapping subpoenas? The reason why this is a bigger deal is because 2 men protecting the border lost their lives to the drug cartels that used weapons from USA. Also, Holder is not on the right, he is a socialist just like Obama!
     
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    Profound statement:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.. are you sure that the guns did not come from Operation Wide Receiver??? Sure the cartels cooperated with ballistics tests.

    Did you read the info about what Herr Bush did??
     
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    Bush and Obama are one in the same. both should be found guilty for their crimes!
     
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    well...

    Bush claims executive privilege on CIA leak - politics - White House - msnbc.com

    4,000 + american troops died in Iraq

    33,000 + americans wounded





    Fast and Furious....

    2 deaths

    (not that I'm saying its nothing....its just not quite as high as 4k)
     
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    Sean Penn is not a member of PatsFans.com, so i doubt he can hear you
     
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    These are 2 different things. How does the war on terror translate to the border where the obama administration allowed thousands of guns to just walk over the border?
     
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    you asked how many people died becaise of an Exec Priv stance.....over 4,000 troops.

    I know they are two differnet things. I agree that the F&F deal needs to be looked into. But was imaginig the outrage from the right if Obama used Exec Priv in this case.

    It would be interesting to read some people's postings on the Exec Priv used by Bush, and the same posters views on what should happen with Fast and Furious...thats all...



    Its not like Holder sold weapons to Iran or anything.

    Or to Saddam Hussein....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUPb-3zkh0c
     
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    I think Bush should be brought up on charges such as Obama. As I stated before, they are one in the same. I am a big supporter of protecting our borders and giving weapons to mexican drug cartels that will use those weapons to cross the border and kill americans to bring drugs into this country and trying to smuggle illegal aliens into this country. There is a big cover up.
     
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    Thousands, does that include the guns from Wide Receiver????..
     
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    If you're going to dredge up Wide Receiver then dredge up Operation Black Eagle which 'flew" under the watchful eye of then Governor of Ark. Billy Clinton :rolleyes:
    Bush, Obama, Holder, Clinton were all involved in criminal activity and the whole Gangsta Government that's ruled our country for YEARS needs to go, up to and including this one.

    I swear our country could be burning all around us and this board would still be braying about whose fault it is, Bush or Obama's.

    And anyone who truly and actually believes Barry Sotero will appoint an honest, forthright, champion of the people to take Holder's place needs to stop hitting their snooze button.

    Big Sis knew about F&F back in 2009. Big Sis also had no clear and real idea how many border patrol agents had been killed to date; after much hemhaw she guestimated "maybe about 'a dozen or so?" ugh it's all so sad :(
     

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