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    Surprised the major news outlets are letting this one slide.

    I guess burning quran's was a bigger story?

    A great example of how the media collectively tries to shape American opinion.

    t r u t h o u t | UN Fact-Finding Mission Says Israelis "Executed" US Citizen Furkan Dogan

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    Is he an Irish aid worker or a US Citizen?
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    Well I saw videos of the IDF guys being attacked as they hit the deck of the ship so someone is lying. I guess the ship should have turned back when they were asked to do so. Wonder why the kid decided to go into a war zone to provoke a response?
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    Kid was shot close range in the face/head ... that is execution.
    Here's the report.
    http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/15session/A.HRC.15.21_en.pdf
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    Who took the film? This attack appeared to happen at night, the original seemed to be during the day?

    How do you identify the person in the vid? I see no details at all to identify the person in question?
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    Read the report PF13 ... it's all in there.
    I posted the link.

    Israel was wrong on multiple levels starting with the blockade itself ... it's all in there.
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    Un Human Rights council is not very credible IMO It is inherently anti Israeli. Sorry.
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    Wow ... so it's okay to shoot a wounded kid in the face ... killing him.

    A kid with a camera who was not involved in the attack?

    You think this was a justifiable killing?

    does that sum it up or would you like to alter any of it?
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    I'm not ready to accept this report at face value.

    If it proves true, however, I would hope people don't defend the Israeli actions. "They shouldn't have been there" isn't a valid defense for an execution.
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    Who took the video someone in a helicopter? Are you saying the first vids showing the IDF guys were faked?
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    Why are you hung up on the video ... that was just a small piece of the story.

    forensic evidence proves the kid was shot in the face while lying wounded on the deck.

    Perhaps at least read some of the report ... a few pages perhaps.
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    BTW the UN PDF is cut off at page 66 before their account of the Israeli interception of the boat in the flotilla.

    The ship should have turned around and not entered Israeli national water when instructed to turn back. I have seen the Videos of the IDF soldier being thrown overboard and them being attacked.

    Who shot the color vid of the kid being shot?
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    EXCLUSIVE: New Video Smuggled Out from Mavi Marmara of Israel's Deadly Assault on Gaza Aid Flotilla
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    He's hung up on the video because Breitbart has taught him well how easily it is to fake video.

    13 spends most of his time on web sites like "Big Government," faked video is the only kind he's familiar with.
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    Could be spliced ... video and pictures are always suspect ... but there's much more than that here. I think I found where they came from ... I'm no expert hunter for the truth. I guess I should not be surprised in this forum when members react to a thread without ever reading the links. when I don't know the story I usually stay out of the threads ... but that's just me.

    Everyone is free to have their opinion so ... not much more to say I guess.

    The story is here if anyone finds it interesting to discuss or if anyone has more info to add.
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    I remember the vids that went up last June. They showed the IDF guys being attacked hit with pipes, as they entered the boat, they showed an IDF guy being tossed off the boat. They boat also entered Israeli waters illegally were told to turn back and didn't.

    I know people were killed, executing someone is murder, but I am suspicious of the motives of the people from the 'peace flotilla' they had an agenda to provoke the Israeli's.
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    Was that 22 second video supposed to prove something? Where's the rest of the video? Also, UN report. Oops. I'm not saying everything it claims can't be, or isn't true. I'm just saying to have lots of salt available. The UN is no friend of Israel.
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    Read pages 26-28 of the UN PDF file (found here). They essentially reject Israel's account on lack of evidence, which is not presented, but take the accounts of the flotilla participants at their word. This approach is outlined in their methdology.

    Sorry, but we're never going to know the full truth of this event. File it under the same category as Mohammed al-Dura.
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    That is convenient... from the original article.

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    We've worked very hard to get those hikers out of Iran ... :rolleyes:
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    Do you think that Israel should have cooperated with the investigation, if they don't you only get one side of the story??...

    The rest of your comments are expected bullshyt, as usual. Thanks for stopping by and stalking though.
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    No, I would tell the UN to eff themselves. They are so biased against Israel to begin with.
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    The Israeli's learned their lesson from the Goldsmith (?) Commission from the UN that investigated the invasion of Gaza several years ago. They cooperated with it fully hoping that it would be an evenhanded honest report. The report had hundreds of pages attacking the Israelis but failure to mention the precipitating event, the firing of thousands of missiles at civilians from Gaza that the Palestinian authorities didn't stop....
    After that they decided to say "screw it, it's rigged so why participate?"
    The report's conclusion were predetermined anyway.
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    Here's the default setting of the neo-con POV:

    Israel good...always.
    Dead American deserved it.

    If Israel shot down a US airliner full of Americans the neocons would find a way to let Israel off. "There was a Muslim on board who was smuggling URANIUM to the Palestinians! They deserved it!

    Anti-Americanbullsh!t, IMO.
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    Out of curiosity: does Hamas abide by these rules?

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