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Israel admits use of chemical weapons against Lebanese

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    This will go unmentioned on Fox News and the rest of the American media. From The Independent (UK)...

    http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article1919396.ece

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    There is a difference between phosphorous bombs and chemical weapons which are typicall viewed as a gas. You were aware of that right?
     
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    The effects of phosphorous bombs are very similar to many chemical weapons. It's considered an uncoventional weapon and is generally frowned upon by the international community.
     
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    So, there is nothing wrong with what they did?

    Did you read this part:
    "During the conflict, doctors in Lebanon reported treating civilians who appeared to have been hit by the shells, which leave their victims with severe chemical wounds that can be fatal." ?
     
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    Of course there's nothing wrong. It's perfectly fine for Israel to terrorize other country's populations in order to 'defend' their own. :rolleyes:
     
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    If they violated bans on these weapons and used them illegally of course it was wrong and peolple should be held accountable.

    I have mixed feelings when Lebanese doctors talk about civilians, in that Hexbollah hides among civilains and uses them as shields as part of their strategy and tatics, and also they dress as civilians.

    It is tough for the Israeli's (or any army) fighting this sort of asymettrical war to try to differentiate between the civilians and the combatants.

    We also have to deal with the terrorist manipulation of the media. There were doctored and staged massacres of civilians being put out by Hezbollah during the Israeli incursion into Lebanon this summer.

    I documented some of that on this site this summer.
     
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    And that story - where Hezbollah supposedly killed en masse the Lebanese and then blamed it on the IDF - originated from Israeli tabloids. So we're supposed to believe the Israeli tabloids who are certainly agenda-free (yeah right) while ignoring the mainstream international press?
     
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    Yes ... Seymour as are the Cluster Bombs used by Hamas and made elsewhere....so do tell ... why did you fail to post that???

    That the cluster bombs were fired upon the civilian population???

    Ahh, you have always attacked the Jews on this site ... so at least you remain consistant in your hate. But please, spare us the one is badder than the other B.S. .... the members of this forum are much to smart for that.

    Israel has a history of nastiness as do it's enemies...unfortunatley the way it is....and will remain to be long after we here have passed....Arabs and Israelies think in terms of hundreds of years and thus the hostilities will never , ever end.
     
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    No it came from Bloggers who noticed some of the Hezbullies who had been at the scene of different 'atrocities' over the years, and a sequence fromt he same photog who doctored the photos of the bombing in Beruit.

    He even has a nickname, the 'green helmet guy'.
     
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    Seymour93,

    What does the international community say about suicide bombers blowing themselves up in crowded cafes?

    I don't condone the use of chemical weapons on civilians, but there are multiple sides to this conflict and you seem only willing to look at one.
     
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    I have no problem with this. I think Israel has shown remarkable restraint given that most of it's neighbors nearby want all the people in Israel to be pushed into the water.
     
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    Did you condemn the U.S. military when it used these same chemical weapons on the citizens of Fallujah? I have a feeling that you did at the time. But why not condemn Israel when it uses the same dirty tactics? Hmmm.

    Us or Russia? :confused:
     
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    Do you think I promote some ******** blowing up a bunch of schoolkids or a crowded pizzeria? I understand how people can become that disillusioned into becoming a suicide bomber. It's certainly easy for a young Palestianian to grow up loathing Isreal since its occupying their homeland and treating their people like ****. It's easy to comprehend as to why the Iraqi's hate us too. But you see I have an allegiance to THIS country. I have no allegiance to Israel, so I'll criticize them 'til the cows come home.
     
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    Well since we took Saddam out there have been fewer suicide bombers. Why? he paid a bounty of $25k to the families of suicide bombers.
     
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    As Terry Francona would say: "I think you need to do your homework".

    First of all, WP is not a banned armament. It's simply barred from being used when targeting military interests in civilian areas. Second, Israel admitted to using them, but not to using them in the manner which is prohibited. Third, WP is banned in this manner by a 1980 protocol to the Geneva Convention which nieither the US, nor Israel is a signatory to.

    http://www.shortnews.com/shownews.cfm?id=57798&CFID=21181167&CFTOKEN=77156212

    *Israel has admitted for the first time that it used phosphorus bombs during its war on Lebanon but said they were only used against Hezbollah targets.
    *Reports during the fighting said several Lebanese civilians carried injuries consistent with attacks by phosphorus, which burns when it comes into contact with air. Many corpses were "entirely shriveled with black-green skin" due to phosphorus.
    *The third protocol of the Geneva Convention on Conventional Weapons, of which Israel and the United States are not signatories, restricts the use of "incendiary weapons" including phosphorus.



    Now, what is really interesting about all this, is that the anti-american/israeli crowd is so bias in it's views that it fails to ever mention the blatant violations by Hezbollah during the conflict.

    http://www.planetxapps.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=380

    Like this one:

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    http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html

    Photos that damn Hezbollah

    Chris Link

    July 30, 2006 12:00am

    Sunday Herald Sun

    THIS is the picture that damns Hezbollah. It is one of several, smuggled from behind Lebanon's battle lines, showing that Hezbollah is waging war amid suburbia.

    The images, obtained exclusively by the Sunday Herald Sun, show Hezbollah using high-density residential areas as launch pads for rockets and heavy-calibre weapons.

    Dressed in civilian clothing so they can quickly disappear, the militants carrying automatic assault rifles and ride in on trucks mounted with cannon.

    The photographs, from the Christian area of Wadi Chahrour in the east of Beirut, were taken by a visiting journalist and smuggled out by a friend.
     
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    Were they civilians or Hezbollah fighters shooting rockets into Haifa murdering innocent Israeli's? Or is it ok for Hezbollah to dress in plain cloths, park a launcher next to a school or hospital, and target civililians without a chirp from the "international community"?
     
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    Actually there have been more suicide bombers since the fall of Baathist Iraq. The suicide bombers are targeting bakeries in Baghdad and Mosul instead of Tel Aviv now, but that's a whole 'nother issue.
     
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    Yes, because being anti-Isreal is the exact same thing as being anti-American... :rolleyes:
     
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    You mean the international MSM like CNN and the BBC?
     
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    I really couldnt care less what type of weapons are used. This is war.


    Good thing Seymour wasnt around in August of 1945.
     

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