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  1. Patjew

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    At this point I am sadly assuming it's a "yes".
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    Definitely. Although he has been, essentially, since Bob Sanders' pass breakup in the 2006/07 AFC Championship.
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    I hope there will be a chance for the fans to honor him at Gillette this year. To totally butcher an old quote, rarely before has someone done so much with so little for so many.
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    Maybe he will hang a round and be part of the shadow roster.
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    Seems to me he is only a hammy or two away from being called on for another last tango, unless someone scoops him up first.

    If the bug does bite our relatively thin receiving corp (see that PF VA), it would be comforting to know he is ready to come back.

    Have to wonder if hhas been in town and working out with the guys or not and if he is sighted after 7/24 in Foxboro.
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    Yea, it's weird to say huh?? Although I think there is a very real possibility he could end up somewhere based on an injury occurring in Camp or Season.
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    I'm gonna have to say yes.
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    Retire in camp, honored at the 1st game, immediately made a coach, or basically any job he wants.

    They cannot not take care of Troy, he is the heart and soul, even more than Bruschi.
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    They cannot just pad the camp roster this season - no more NFLE with 8 exemptions. Troy will either sign on somewhere else where they are really young or really thin, decide he cannot and announce his retirement in August or linger in limbo this season where he would essentially be a shadow roster emergency pickup for this team if needed - he won't sign on somewhere else past camp because he wouldn't have much value to a team whose offense and personnel he was unfamiliar with.

    Whenever he officially retires you can be sure the team will do right by him. He will be honored at a game, he will be inducted into the Patriots HOF by unanimous aclimation (maybe he will run it) and he will have a job in the "organization" for life per Bob Kraft saying so too many times to count - just don't assume he will be a coach. Too little money for too many hours. Troy will carve out a spot in the expanding Kraft Group in PR/Media/Community Relations, etc. He had a 1 hour a week radio show a couple of years ago so maybe he will do some color commentary on pre and post game productions or Patriots Today or even the kids show on Sundays. The kind of job you can commute to 2-3 days a week almost like the off season program only in season...

    If he's interested in coaching at all he would likely start somewhere like Marshall, where he has done some volunteer coaching and clinics in the off season. His kids are still young and his wife has a professional career too (as a chemist) where they make their full time home in I believe W. Va. He never made the mega bucks but he's averaged in the high six to low seven figures for over a decade and as his wife has said they lived on her income primarily and his was largely banked for retirement. Position coaches in the NFL start in the high fives and work their way into the low sixes putting in 60+ hour weeks for 11 months of the year. When guys still want to play they also seldom want to coach - particularly at this level - they need a little more distance from the field as they adjust to life that doesn't include personally suiting up on Sundays. Most veterans will tell you that prospect is all that makes the grind worth it. Which is why so many take a little less at the end to be somewhere where they have a shot at some playing time.

    The only guy on this team I've ever heard express an interest in coaching is Vrabel, and he was very specific that his interest is in college coaching, preferably at OSU. Tedy will do PR and media and charitable work hereabouts for the rest of his lifetime. I doubt you will ever see him coaching - he can make a lot more doing media work and he's got 3 little boys he wants to spend time raising. Coaching is really for those who couldn't be or stay in the game any other way, these guys all made their mark on the field and were pretty well compensated for it.

    And I don't think we need to be concerned about the Kraft's taking care of honoring any of the core guys who helped build a dynasty as they end their on field careers, nor do we have to worry that they will not be kept in some way involved with the organization as the years go by. Even if guys choose for financial reasons to finish out careers somewhere else, once they are done they will be Patriots for life.
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    hope they don't have to cut him
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    Nice post.

    I agree. In many ways, coaching (low on the totem pole) is taking a step back from playing (at a high level), and unless someone aspires to be a HC, I can't imagine why a well-off player would want that grind.
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    It would take alot to get to that. As he isn't on the roster and I doubt they bring him in without him being a near lock for the roster. But anything is possible. If one of the WR went down they may look to him but than he could feasably be beat out by someone like an aiken or something but that Scenario is unlikely. I would imagine the only way he is back with us is if we have a string of season ending injuries during the season and he didn't find another home.
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    Passion. I mean I could see a guy like Bruschi doing it because he has such a passion for the game. Vrable has already said he wants to coach when he is done although I think he wants to do it at the college level.
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    Cut him again.
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    I know, but passion for playing is very different than for coaching. As a coach you don't get the payoff of getting on the field and being the one ulimately responsible for succeeding or failing. Personally I can't imagine Bruschi coaching for that reason. Vrabel seems more intellectual than the average player, which is why he seems well suited for coaching. I think a love for the intricacies of the game makes one much more likely to coach, rather than passion, because I think almost all of these guys are most passionate about playing. I think that's why such a small percentage of marquee players end up as coaches.
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    The only organization I wanna see Brown with is the Patriots regardless the capacity I think i'd almost throw up if he wore puke Green.
    That being said I hope he just retires goes out with one team he's had some of the best times any player could hope for Championships, making the team as a 8th round pick and working his way up, playing defense, the punt return agaisnt the squealers in the championship game.
    I wanna be selfish and see Troy end it now.
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    Yes ... Troy is done ... at least here anyways.
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    Don't mind me, I'm a victim of off season mind. Is the lack of Europe exemption players going to cramp the style in training camp.
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    As a player, you are probably right.
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    FWIW, Troy's jersey is still full price on the Proshop. Maybe that's a good sign.
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