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  1. AndyJohnson

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    When the Pats sent Branch out to negotiate with other temas, I predicted that if Mangini had learned anything from BB he would give Branch a huge offer that was more than his value of what he was willing to pay him, then refuse to agree on any reasonable trade compensation, thereby driving a wedge between Branch and the Pats, ie overinflating Branchs opinion of himself, pricing the Pats out of keeping him, and plssing Branch off because he has his deal but the Pats are asking for ridiculous trade compensation.

    Has Mangini outsmarted BB?
     
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    I think Beoli has outsmarted himself more than anything.
     
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    Where exactly did you make that prediction? I'd love to see it. If so, hats off to you. I don't remember seeing it though.
     
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    no, mangini just wants him.
    but seahawks, vikings want him more.
    sounds like.
     
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    If Seattle is really in the biding too, then I would say your prediction may not be correct.
     
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    Well if Profootballtalk is correct in what the Jets offered him, then they outsmarted Branch's agent, not BB. Let's see.. The Pats offered me $31 million over 5 years, the Jets offered me $36 million over six years. I'd better take that Jets offer! (umm, you might want to check the math on that, Mr Chayut).
     
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    In the thread that was started saying Pats give Branch right to negotiate trade.
     
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    I'll be curious what portion of that deal is signing bonus/guaranteed money.
     
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    You guys have lost your heads if you for a Second believe that........If you don't think BB/Pioli knew that there would be a few teams to offer branch more money, then you are really insulting those guys.......They might not have known which teams, but they I'm sure were well prepared for a scenario of teams offering Branch more.....The offers aren't light years ahead of the Pats....Just enough to be a little more then the Pats........This whole wedge being driven card is being way overplayed. Because in doing that you go off the premise that BB/ Pioli never expected a team to offer more....That is just crazy today where someone will always offer a player more and essentially overpay......I believe BB/Pioli have been prepared for this and will execute a deal that is the best for the organization!
     
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    If the Jets compensation really would be a 2nd round draft pick and "a pretty good player, I would say, no Mangini did not outsmart BB. That sounds like a pretty decent offer...depending on the player of course.
     
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    Regardless of whether other teams are involved, Mangini offered a phony deal that he knew he would never consumate because he would refuse whatever the Pats asked for in return is my point.
     
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    Exactly, that is the key to the deal as far as Branch is concerned.
     
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    Personally I think BB had no other choice. They made an offer, and never received a counter. Branch never showed for camp and they were just at a stalemate. So he lets him seek a trade and get contract offers. This is the counter they are looking for. I think BB may make one more offer, if Branch declines, he gets traded. Unless there is nothing worthwile in a trade, in which case he tells Branch to go home until week 10, and branch gets franchised/traded next year.

    I don't think Mangini or any other team would make a ridiculous offer with no intentions of actually making a trade. I just don't see the NFL working that way, teams focus on bettering their team not screwing one other team. They are competing against 30 other teams for the superbowl, not just the pats.


    The report of 6 years $36M is something the pats will not match IMO. Maybe they offer to give him 4 years, starting this year but that's as far as they go. Branch probably won't accept this with idiot Chayut as his agent so it all depends on what the patriots get offered in a trade. Branch, IMO, will not play one down this year for the patriots. But BB wasn't outsmarted, he had no other choice.
     
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    Not really because we don't know how much is guaranteed. Those numbers there don't tell us anything.,

    If the Jets offer some ridiculous trade making it obvious it's just to drive up the price, that's not going to help Branch's negotiations. The Jets wouldn't even risk making a reasonable offer if that was their plan, because it could easily blow up in their face. They'd be risking alot more than the Pats.
     
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    Good post. If Mangini learned anything from Belichick, it would be not to offer frivolous contracts. What Belichick did one week ago was a means to an end. He opened the door for Deion, and he did it for a reason. Just look at the activity online right now - this matter must be resolved before too long or it will become a huge distraction.
     
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    Not if its a ploy. Very easy for Mangini to make an offer Branch would jump at, knowing all along we would never pull the trigger on the trade. Going through the motions of trade talks doesnt mean he really intends to make one. If Im Mangini, I jump all over a chance to effectively end Branchs career in NE, keep the Pats tied up in trade talks with me, een though I willnever agree. When you are competing, harming your competitor is a way to improve yourself.

    Think about it. If Eric Mangini can pull a 'scam' to prevent the Pats from having Deion Branch for the next 6 years, he has improved his chances of winning the division over that time.
    Quite frankly, I'd be shocked if Mangini DIDNT try to screw the Pats here.
     
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    If I'm BB, I'm rejecting any trade offer. Let Branch sit until week 11, franchise him next summer, and demand that he sign, play, or take someone's TWO first rounders to sign.
     
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    Why are you so sure that the Jets offer is a ploy? Is that because you "predicted" that?
     
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    I must say, that's very prescient.
     
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    Out of curiousity because I really don't know. Was Mangini given the same control over the Jets as BB has over the Pats?
     

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