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  1. Harry Boy

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    Story going around today that Barack Hussein Obama's friend Bill Ayers dedicated a book he wrote to Sirhan Sirhan the guy that killed Robert Kennedy, is it true----------:confused::confused:

    This guy Barack Hussein Obama hangs around with some very strange people, does he not.

    Sarah hunts Moose and she fired her brother inlaw------:singing:
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    #24 Jersey

    Yeah, it was on Hannity and Colmes last night. To be fair to Obama, Sirhan Sirhan was one of many dedications in the book, it look like over 100. However, he was one of them, it was shown on TV last night.
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    well, if he bombed buildings it doesnt surprise me the scumbag would do this.

    However, what does it have to do with Barack Obama? Because they served on the same board? Ive worked with morons before, is it my responsibility they are morons?

    Both Bill Ayers and John McCain gave money to Khalidi. That means John McCain and Bill Ayers have something more meaningful in common that Barack Obama and Bill Ayers.

    Both John McCain and Bill Ayers funded an enemy of Israel.

    My, that John McCain has some very questionable associations doesnt he?
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    #24 Jersey

    Can one of you Democrats - a SINGLE ******* ONE - admit that Obama's friends, influences and mentors bother you. Forget McCain - assume the election's over and McCain is irrelevant. Try defending Obama's past solely on it's own merits without this pitiful deflection.
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    another Sean Hannity tactic.

    oh, okay. John McCain isnt running for President. Its just Barack Obama. He is all alone on the ballot. All by himself. Its all about Barack. So if you like him you vote for him. If he does something you dont agree with...
    You vote for John McCain!!

    Sorry, this is achoice about 2 candidates and, it was JOHN MCCAIN, who is making an issue of this.

    So if John McCain gives $448,000 to a guy that does harm to Israel, and yes, polling is used to determine how to use propaganda to get your people to harm your enemies ( Israel), and then John McCain has the gall to make a case that somehow it is Barack Obama who has ties to the guy, it is MORE than relevant to point out that while, yes, i wouldnt be thrilled if Barack Obama had ties to Khalidi, it is JOHN MCCAIN who has a proven record of
    SUPPORTING Khalidi.

    Get it??

    likewise, in the same way, Obama may have served on a board with Ayers.
    It was JOHN MCCAIN, who, just like Ayers, gave money to support Khalidi.
    So it is JOHN MCCAIN who has a more meaningful political connection to Bill Ayers than Barack Obama has.

    Again, Get it??

    or is it you who is drinking the Sean Hannity Kool-Aid.

    See through the agenda and look at the facts.
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    #24 Jersey

    I've moved on from thinking McCain can win. Look - vote for Obama, great. I just want to know if his past associations bother you, regardless of whether it will affect your vote.
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    No they don't bother me one bit because Obama doesn't preach or feel the same way.

    I have friends with nut ball ideas, you have friends with nut ball ideas, that is not a reflection of you...

    There are many aquantices we have on our lives that aren't ideal, but it's usually the other facets that bring you together. Perhaps you really have a good tiem at the football games so you tailgate, but you don't go over to his shooting range to go through Militia training with fellow nut balls...

    I do not understand this logic, if we judge everyone by the people they know, then everyone is a crazy, corupt, brown nosing, kiss ass, and dumb ass.

    I'm sorry, but the people in your life do not shape who you are... Unless you believe you are a product of your environment...

    And if that's the case, then you agree we need to spend more money in urban cities to help the people that are raised there because theire environment is so harsh they need extra help to learn and progress.

    See it can't go both ways, you expect individuals in tough situations to rise above it through hard work, well Obama has risen above that environment to disagree with their points and believe in something else.
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    On top of that, McCain association with an American that has been responsible for killing over 5000 American lives, and most likely more than that, doesn't bother me either...
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    Why isn't MSNBC shouting it from the highest rooftops, I would think that Chris "Tingle Leg" Matthews would go crazy Yelling And Spitting about McCain/Ayers----:confused:
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    #12 Jersey

    That's refreshing to hear that you think he (Ayers) is a scumbag. There is at least one idiot on this board that said they would prefer Ayers as president over McCain....and that doesn't mean I'm all that enthused with McCain either. I don't think we know the full story on the relationship yet though. That doesn't mean I'm hoping for more, I just think there is more. That LA Times deal is troublesome. I can't help feeling that there's something on the tape that they don’t want us to see.
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    #24 Jersey

    If it doesn't bother you, that's great. The pattern is bothersome to me. It's not just Ayers. It's not just Wright. It's not just Flagler. It's not just Resko. And on and on. The guy has come up through the gutter of dirty Chicago politics. He may have come out of the other end clean as a whistle. I hope so because he's going to win. However it does bother me who his influences are because it's not just one, it's a pattern.
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    they ARE. Didnt you see the thread i just posted? It was all over MSNBC all last night.
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    This whole discussion about Obama's various "friends, influences and mentors " is one HUGE pitiful deflection on the part of the right. Can one of you Republicans - a SINGLE ******* ONE - admit this? Can you NOT put Obama down without it?
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    #24 Jersey

    There's plenty of other stuff we don't like about Obama. He's lying about taxes being reduced on everyone under $200K when you include all taxes. His wealth redistribution thing is icky especially when he talks about it as a civil rights issue. Believe me, I don't like his past associations but that is not close to all. I also don't like his strong pro abortion stance. I find him to be a very unlikeable man to be honest.
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    well, thats a legitimate stance and reason to not vote for him. Taxes and Abortion. Real issues. I dont like his abortion stance either, but I look at the whole picture and on almost all the other issues I agree with his policies more than McCains.

    its these other ridiculous issues like Bill Ayers and terrorists, and hes a socialist, hes a marxist, hes un-american, he a muslim, where is his birth certificate CRAP that makes the GOP look like idiots this year.
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    Wow. That's pretty honest for a Republican.

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