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  1. ctpatsfan77

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    There are other quotes I could have picked besides these that suggest that Edelman either can't fill Welker's spot until Welker gets healthy, or shouldn't be allowed to.

    What makes this perplexing is that Edelman already has put up Welker-like numbers in the slot. Edelman is almost literally the closest thing to a Welker clone since Welker entered the league, so why do people want to put someone else in the slot?
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    if anything, I think he's being overestimated.
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    I personally think that Julian Edelman is being underestimated and is going to be a big name in this league for a long time.
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    ditto. 10char.
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    Physically, he's more gifted than Welker. He just needs to continue to get reps at WR and I think he'll be one of the best slot guys in the NFL, including Welker.
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    He's a better passer than Welker too ;)
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    Yeah, but Welker's the better kicker. :D
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    People dont seem to realize that he is just in his 2nd year of playing WR at any level. Its going to take some time for him to completely learn the position. I thought he had a very promising rookie season. He will do some of the things Welker did but I dont think you can say that he will compltely be a full replacement for Welker. He can do some of the same things, but just isnt up to Welker yet
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    Edelman has surpassed Welker's rookie year numbers. What do people expect a rookie QB turned WR to do his first year? My brother, a huge Dolphin fan, asked me if Welker changed his number. He was the only bright spot in the playoff game. That 4th and 7 play when Edelman took a loss and turned it into a first down was the best play of the game. As much as I like Welker, his absence wouldn't have changed the outcome.
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    Obviously Edelman is no replacement for Welker, certainly not in his 2nd year. I do however believe that he is capeable of playing the role Welker had. He can be the guy who lines up in the slot and work the middle of the field, run those bubble screens, those types of things.

    Last year I thought he played like a good #4 WR. Hopefully this year he will improve and because a good #3, to go along with Holt and Moss. I definitley think he is gonna put up some solid numbers in this offense.
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    Touche'! :)
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    No, I think he will be a good receiver but I don't think he's consistent enough. Sure, he had a good game against the Ravens but he wasn't the focus and the game was already out of hand. Also, there were times during the year where he would dance around after a catch instead of trying to go though defenders out of position for the 1st down. Two examples of this which killed critical drives were week 2 against the Jets and on Monday night against the Colts. He will obviously have a better year in 2010, but I think 2011 will be his year.
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    I think Edelman has a fantastic future, I remember last year when we where getting thrashed by the Ravens, and Edelman caught a screen, but battled through about 5 tackles, trucking over Ray Lewis to get the first down, thats when I realised he has a great great future.
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    Underestimated nationally, overestimated here.
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    Edelman was amazing last year considering he was playing WR for the first time. There is a chance he could emerge into a very good WR in his second year. He may not end up being a slot WR when everything is said and done either. He might turn more into a Deion Branch than a Wes Welker. They put him in the slot because it was probably easier to learn the routes as a novice.

    As for Holt in the slot, it was already reported that the Pats do not intend on using him there (at least as his primary position) and they intend to line him up on the outside.
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    He needs to learn to pick his fights, i.e. when to keep moving to try and get the extra yards, like the first down in the ravens game, or when to get down and not take the hit. Welker seems to be a master at avoiding hits (unless he gets blindsided by a certain safety who can't keep his trap shut). If Edelman keeps taking hits like last year he runs the risk of having nagging injuries. He wasn't exactly healthy the full year last year.

    He has a very good upside though, and is a quick learner so I'm sure he will pick up the little details of the WR position quickly.
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    I think Holt will be a good complement to the rest of the offence running precise short/intermediate routes from the outside.
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    We'll soon find out.
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    When the pats run 2 wide receiver formations, who's the WR on the other side of moss; Edelman, Holt, Tate, Price, other?
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    I think it depends on the situation. Don't forget Tate, he's going to have a good year.
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    I added some extra options for you ;)

    I realise that it would depend on the situation etc, but I was referring to the majority of 2 WR sets (I think they will run more 2TE/2WR sets this year).
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    Agree completely.
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    Durability has to be considered an issue with Edelman, with two injuries last year and the fact that slot receivers get treated like a pinball in a old-time pinball machine. Holt may have similar issues due to age.

    Personally I'd like to see Moss have less reps this year to preserve his health for late in the year too.

    Moss-80% of snaps
    Edelman-50%
    Holt-50%
    Tate-45%
    others combined-42%

    This adds up to 267%, meaning 3WR sets 2/3 of the time and 2 WR sets 1/3 of the time... roughly.

    Obviously Welker in the second half, hopefully, assumes many of those snaps.
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    Our TEs are really diverse this year and will cause mismatch problems for our opponents. It will be a function of the particular tight ends lined up, the defense's personel and what mismatches we're trying to take advantage of. I think it will leave options for a variety of WR's to line up across from Moss, especially if Price and Farnham catch on quickly. I'm confident Tate is the real deal.

    Imagine trying to cover Gronk, Hernandez, Moss, Edelman/Franham and Faulk? BB has learned from the Saints.
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    Since when do #4 receivers average 7 catches/game?
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    I'd have to agree with your analysis.
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    Of course he won't be better than Welker would have been this year, but Patrick Crayton is 5th on the Cowboys depth chart. He's there for a reason.


    That being said, Edelman is bigger, stronger, and faster than Welker.
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