Is Corey Dillon going to the Hall of Fame?

[shatch62]

I don’t think anyone right now would say yes but his numbers – I know numbers aren’t everything – are getting into the range of HoF.

Here is the list of top 20 rushers in league history:

All-time leaders
1. E Smith 18355
2. W Payton 16726
3. B Sanders 15269
4. *C Martin 14101
5. *J Bettis 13662
6. E ****erson 13259
7. T Dorsett 12739
8. J Brown 12312
9. *M Faulk 12279
10. M Allen 12243
11. F Harris 12120
12. T Thomas 12074
13. J Riggins 11352
14. O Simpson 11236
15. R Watters 10643
16. E George 10441
17. *C Dillon 10429
18. O Anderson 10273
19. E Campbell 9407
20. *E James 9226
* - active in 2005
Out of the 16 RBs ahead of him 10 – Smith, Payton, Sanders, ****erson, Dorsett, Brown, Allen, Harris, Riggins and Simpson – are already in the Hall. Martin, Bettis and Faulk will be in someday. Thomas maybe, Watters and George won’t. If his career ended today Dillon would not make it, for the same reason George won’t – nice career but not Hall worthy. My question is what more would Dillon need to do? Two more years like last one – which was not a good one – and Dillon would be at 11,895. Would that be enough. Probably not. So, what would he need to do to get to the Hall?

For reference here are some of his accomplishments.

Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 2000-7, 2001-2, 2002-6, 2004-4
Rushing yards: 1997-9, 1999-10, 2000-5, 2001-7, 2002-10, 2004-3
Rushing TDs: 1997-6t, 2001-4t, 2004-8t, 2005-5t
Yards from scrimmage: 2004-7
Rush/Receive TDs: 2001-5t, 2004-10t, 2005-5t

4-time Pro Bowler: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004

Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 16
Rushing yards: 17
Rushing TDs: 24t
Yards from scrimmage: 34
Rush/Receive TDs: 49t

 

[PonyExpress]

I don’t think anyone right now would say yes but his numbers – I know numbers aren’t everything – are getting into the range of HoF.

Here is the list of top 20 rushers in league history:

All-time leaders
1. E Smith 18355
2. W Payton 16726
3. B Sanders 15269
4. *C Martin 14101
5. *J Bettis 13662
6. E ****erson 13259
7. T Dorsett 12739
8. J Brown 12312
9. *M Faulk 12279
10. M Allen 12243
11. F Harris 12120
12. T Thomas 12074
13. J Riggins 11352
14. O Simpson 11236
15. R Watters 10643
16. E George 10441
17. *C Dillon 10429
18. O Anderson 10273
19. E Campbell 9407
20. *E James 9226
* - active in 2005
Out of the 16 RBs ahead of him 10 – Smith, Payton, Sanders, ****erson, Dorsett, Brown, Allen, Harris, Riggins and Simpson – are already in the Hall. Martin, Bettis and Faulk will be in someday. Thomas maybe, Watters and George won’t. If his career ended today Dillon would not make it, for the same reason George won’t – nice career but not Hall worthy. My question is what more would Dillon need to do? Two more years like last one – which was not a good one – and Dillon would be at 11,895. Would that be enough. Probably not. So, what would he need to do to get to the Hall?

For reference here are some of his accomplishments.

Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 2000-7, 2001-2, 2002-6, 2004-4
Rushing yards: 1997-9, 1999-10, 2000-5, 2001-7, 2002-10, 2004-3
Rushing TDs: 1997-6t, 2001-4t, 2004-8t, 2005-5t
Yards from scrimmage: 2004-7
Rush/Receive TDs: 2001-5t, 2004-10t, 2005-5t

4-time Pro Bowler: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004

Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 16
Rushing yards: 17
Rushing TDs: 24t
Yards from scrimmage: 34
Rush/Receive TDs: 49t

Dillon needs to get to 12,000 yards and have another good postseason to be a HOF candidate. I see him in the 700 range this season sharing the load with Maroney, and then he can stick around here for another two years on a restructured contract, a la Jerome Bettis as a short yardage goal line runner and get the last 700. If so, he will likely make it, though not on the first ballot.

 

[gomezcat]

My guess is that he would need another 1000 yard season with an average well above 4.0 ypc. I would agree about the postseason as well.

 

[mcbee]

I don’t think anyone right now would say yes but his numbers – I know numbers aren’t everything – are getting into the range of HoF.

Here is the list of top 20 rushers in league history:

All-time leaders
1. E Smith 18355
2. W Payton 16726
3. B Sanders 15269
4. *C Martin 14101
5. *J Bettis 13662
6. E ****erson 13259
7. T Dorsett 12739
8. J Brown 12312
9. *M Faulk 12279
10. M Allen 12243
11. F Harris 12120
12. T Thomas 12074
13. J Riggins 11352
14. O Simpson 11236
15. R Watters 10643
16. E George 10441
17. *C Dillon 10429
18. O Anderson 10273
19. E Campbell 9407
20. *E James 9226
* - active in 2005
Out of the 16 RBs ahead of him 10 – Smith, Payton, Sanders, ****erson, Dorsett, Brown, Allen, Harris, Riggins and Simpson – are already in the Hall. Martin, Bettis and Faulk will be in someday. Thomas maybe, Watters and George won’t. If his career ended today Dillon would not make it, for the same reason George won’t – nice career but not Hall worthy. My question is what more would Dillon need to do? Two more years like last one – which was not a good one – and Dillon would be at 11,895. Would that be enough. Probably not. So, what would he need to do to get to the Hall?

For reference here are some of his accomplishments.

Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 2000-7, 2001-2, 2002-6, 2004-4
Rushing yards: 1997-9, 1999-10, 2000-5, 2001-7, 2002-10, 2004-3
Rushing TDs: 1997-6t, 2001-4t, 2004-8t, 2005-5t
Yards from scrimmage: 2004-7
Rush/Receive TDs: 2001-5t, 2004-10t, 2005-5t

4-time Pro Bowler: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004

Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 16
Rushing yards: 17
Rushing TDs: 24t
Yards from scrimmage: 34
Rush/Receive TDs: 49t

If he could get another 1,500 yards per year for 3 years, then he'd be a lock. Or maybe 1,200 for 2 he'd have a very good chance.

 

[Fanfrom1960]

I like Dillon but I don't think he makes the HOF unless he gets another whole huge bunch of yards. First, the numbers are skewed, giving today's runners more yards because of the 16 game schedule, whereas Brown played in the 12 game era and Simpson and others the 14. Also, it's more than just stats. Dillon never had the pizzaz of Brown, Sanders, Sayers, Simpson, ****erson, Dorsett, Payton or even Earl Campbell. I hate to say it, but he's more like Eddie George or Ottis Anderson. He also had a huge cloud over his head during his Cinci years. Deserved or not, it will affect writers when voting. JMO.

 

[Alk]

Looking at that list, I just can't see any way possible that Dillon makes the HOF. That's not a knock on him either, there are alot of great RBs that never make it.

 

[dryheat44]

If he buys a ticket, he can go to the HoF many times.

 

[oldrover]

You gotta be known for stats, or winning, or amazing achievements (Sayers, Simpson). CD's stats aren't good enough, he's won once but as a cog, and he has no outstanding achievements.

He COULD make it...

...if he had at least two more years like 2004, and the Pats win it all those two years. Then I think he is at least in the discussion.

 

[Alk]

I'm curious. Does anyone really think that super bowl rings make a difference on whether a guy makes it to the HOF? I really don't think it does nor do I think it should. There are alot of great players out there that never win a super bowl that should be in the HOF. Dan Marino and Bruce Smith come to mind.

 

[Kdo5]

I see him between 1200 and 1400 this year. He got 700 yards, he didnt look that great this year...but he missed about six games, you never know if he had at least some decent games he could have gotten 1000.

 

[oldrover]

I'm curious. Does anyone really think that super bowl rings make a difference on whether a guy makes it to the HOF? I really don't think it does nor do I think it should. There are alot of great players out there that never win a super bowl that should be in the HOF. Dan Marino and Bruce Smith come to mind.

Let's take Roger Craig. Played a key role on three SB winners. Rushed for 8000 yards, caught another 5000 worth. Is he an HOFer? I don't think so. But without the SBs, no one would EVER mention him that way.

OTOH, Tim Brown. No SB wins, but excellent production. Does he go? Probably. IMHO. If he had the three SBs Craig has, it'd be a LOCK, and we'd be talking about him in the same breath as Jerry Rice or Lynn Swann.

I think championships are part of the portfolio. If a guy is borderline HOF, but played a key role on a few winners, maybe he gets in. If not, maybe not. Generally, though, it's the stats.

 

[rhubma]

At the risk of violating site protocal about mixing threads (and if it does I apologize), here are my thoughts posted this afternoon in NE 39's "BB impressed with Maroney"

Personally, if this happens, I think Corey has a good shot at Canton. :

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tunescribe
Think Corey Dillon is hearing footsteps? Now, you wonder what BB had in mind with this comment, knowing it was going to probably be reported in the media. Does this mean he's not he's not as sold on Dillon's ability to blast through a hole? Quote:


I think (hope) that the model the BB is using with Dillon is O.J. Anderson. Anderson was a star lead back early in his career with the Cardinals (?), then morphed into a tremendous 3rd down/4th quarter/cold weather RB on the championship Giant teams.

If Corey could accept an Anderson-like role with Maroney over the next few years, it may extend his career an extra 2-3 seasons... and possibly may be the difference in making the HOF.

 

[PonyExpress]

You gotta be known for stats, or winning, or amazing achievements (Sayers, Simpson). CD's stats aren't good enough, he's won once but as a cog, and he has no outstanding achievements.

He COULD make it...

...if he had at least two more years like 2004, and the Pats win it all those two years. Then I think he is at least in the discussion.

Dillon broke Walter Payton's 20 year record of rushing yards in a single game, and also the record of rushing yards in a game by a rookie.

 

[PatsWorldChamps]

he needs 13,000 yards to make it... only 4 pro bowls isnt really impressive... he'll need to be in the top 5 or 6 to get in

 

[PatsWorldChamps]

Dillon broke Walter Payton's 20 year record of rushing yards in a single game, and also the record of rushing yards in a game by a rookie.

neither of which have much value towards HOF entry

 

[JoeSixPat]

I think Dillon needs to break the Top 10. If he still held the single game record it would be a different matter.

Looking over those stats really makes you sit back in awe of Barry Sanders however... and Sanders of course a guy who never resorted to stunts after scoring a touchdown... would just flip the ball to the official

Just imagine where Sanders could have been had he played another 5 healthy years?

 

[PonyExpress]

neither of which have much value towards HOF entry

Are you a voter?

 

[PromisedLand]

I think another 2000 career rushing yards would do it for him. That would put him in the top ten all time. Also on his resume are the single game rushing record (since broken), a Super Bowl ring, and setting the Patriots all time single season rushing record in a Super Bowl winning season.

The only negative I can think of is his former (?) reputation as being a troublemaker or malcontent. I don't know if his two years of perfect citizenship with the Pats is enough to erase that. Perhaps a couple of more years of good behavior would.

 

[Krugman]

Agree with PE...

One more thing,Dillon has a ring,In answer to Huskeralks' question,I think it helps,if a candidate is borderline,I think it pushes him to the plus side of the voting,just my 2 cents...

 

[stcjones]

Yes.......

I don’t think anyone right now would say yes but his numbers – I know numbers aren’t everything – are getting into the range of HoF.

Here is the list of top 20 rushers in league history:

All-time leaders
1. E Smith 18355
2. W Payton 16726
3. B Sanders 15269
4. *C Martin 14101
5. *J Bettis 13662
6. E ****erson 13259
7. T Dorsett 12739
8. J Brown 12312
9. *M Faulk 12279
10. M Allen 12243
11. F Harris 12120
12. T Thomas 12074
13. J Riggins 11352
14. O Simpson 11236
15. R Watters 10643
16. E George 10441
17. *C Dillon 10429
18. O Anderson 10273
19. E Campbell 9407
20. *E James 9226
* - active in 2005
Out of the 16 RBs ahead of him 10 – Smith, Payton, Sanders, ****erson, Dorsett, Brown, Allen, Harris, Riggins and Simpson – are already in the Hall. Martin, Bettis and Faulk will be in someday. Thomas maybe, Watters and George won’t. If his career ended today Dillon would not make it, for the same reason George won’t – nice career but not Hall worthy. My question is what more would Dillon need to do? Two more years like last one – which was not a good one – and Dillon would be at 11,895. Would that be enough. Probably not. So, what would he need to do to get to the Hall?

For reference here are some of his accomplishments.

Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 2000-7, 2001-2, 2002-6, 2004-4
Rushing yards: 1997-9, 1999-10, 2000-5, 2001-7, 2002-10, 2004-3
Rushing TDs: 1997-6t, 2001-4t, 2004-8t, 2005-5t
Yards from scrimmage: 2004-7
Rush/Receive TDs: 2001-5t, 2004-10t, 2005-5t

4-time Pro Bowler: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004

Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 16
Rushing yards: 17
Rushing TDs: 24t
Yards from scrimmage: 34
Rush/Receive TDs: 49t

He will get in......