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Is Brady A Better QB with Moss and Welker?

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  1. mgteich

    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

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    I don't think that Brady is playing as well now as when he had a poorer line and poorer receivers. Obviously, the OC and playcallers are not doing as well either.
     
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    Brady was okay in 2007 with Moss and Welker.
     
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    Moss and Welker are not the problem.
    Great talent is never a problem.

    It is the crappy coordinating and play calling that is the problem.

    Moss and Welker make it easy for a lazy/dumb coordinator to keep a job much longer than he should keep it.
     
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    sac-religious to bring it up but even if the patriots weren't the only ones to do it.

    Taping the defensive signals and applying them to a game plan certainly couldn't hurt, the o-line was rock solid and lesser wr's thrived.

    Just saying.
     
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    Dumb question to ask....he had his best season in 2007. I think that answers your question
     
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    I would rather have the best OL in the league and average WRs than the other way around
     
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    Brady had a pretty good year in 2007 IIRC...
     
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    Yes he is. We would ALL be better QBs if we could through to Moss and Welker.
     
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    You must have been born after 2007. You think it maybe has something to do with a shredded knee and crappy offensive coaching? Maybe???
     
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    Absolutely. In 2007, Brady showed how great he could be with star receivers like Manning always had. And the OL was pretty good as well, though a big part of that was Brady getting rid of the ball quickly.

    This year, there have been a lot of different factors, from the injury recovery to play-calling to poor line play.
     
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    Why is it sacreligious for a Jets fan to bring that up and say that?
     
  12. HEY BRO! WHAT UP?

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    Yes. It's the play calling/game management that's killing this team. In addition, the Pats staff are the only people that think they have all pros up front to throw 40-50 times a game and expect to win. Granted, there are times where Brady throws some pretty stupid passes, but he's done that his entire career. He just doesn't do it on a regular basis.
     
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    Yes. Brady is better with all-world receivers.

    We love to lok back with fondness at the 03-04 champions. I know I do. But I remember more than one game that was won with no TDs at all ! Wasn't the Tedy TD the only one scored in the snowball toss, for example ?

    The D was hot, so we might not remember all the low scoring that was going on. I prefered it, because it was winning football - but the offense was not clicking like it is now. What it DID do, though, was click at the end of the game when we needed it... but does Welker/Moss prevent us from second half scoring ? I say no.
     
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    ever QB in the NFL would be a better QB with moss and welker they are 2 of the best if not the best WR's in the NFL they are #1 and #2 in yerd's

    but the best way to stop a top passing game is to get to the QB and teams are doing that keep hiting brady and you can hold the pats to 20 points and the pats D any one can put 30 on them
     
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    They stopped doing it at half-time of the first game in 07. The rest of that season he and the WRs were pretty good wouldn't you say? Just saying...
     
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