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Is Asante worth 7.79 million a year?

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Is Asante Worth $7.79 million

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  1. Yes, he's an ELITE CB who deserves every penny.

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  2. No. He's good, but not worth $7.79 Million.

    54 vote(s)
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  3. No way. Asante is a glorified #2 CB who only benefited from the Pats coverage schemes.

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  1. DaBruinz

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    Ok, we all know that Asante had 12 Ints on the season (10 during the regular season and 2 in the play-offs). Of those 10 regular season ones, at least 5 were because of pressure on the QB and NOT because he beat out the WR for the ball.

    Also, Asante is a lousy tackler. He goes for the show-boat hit too much and doesn't wrap up.

    Now, don't get me wrong, he is a good CB. But I don't consider him to be GREAT or ELITE by any stretch of the imagination.
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    Depends on who they would replace him with IMO.
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    First, my answer is YES as it would be a one year deal.

    Second, Franchising isn't about the money, it's about the control. He wouldn't sign it until he had to . . . meanwhile we'd try to re-sign him, trade him or could rescind the tag if it were unsigned.

    We cannot let him walk for a 2008 comp pick.
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    Samuel has been tackilng very well so you have had the wrong player the last 8 games.

    Belichick seemed very comfortable with late in the season so who knows what actually is going on.
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    I say pay him. He is to valuble to let loose.
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    Would you rather rely upon the following cornerbacks:

    Eugene Wilson
    Randall Gay
    Chad Scott
    Antwain Spann
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    He's not worth 7.79 million if you have Ty Law and Otis Smith in their prime on the roster. But the problem is they're not in their prime anymore, O-T-I-S is a coach while Law is in KC. Even if we draft a CB in the 1st round I'd still keep Samuel for a year on 7.79 mil.
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    At worst, a franchise tag and trade would provide better value than a late third round compensatory draft pick in 2008.
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    How can you alibi interceptions based on pressuring the qb? Does that mean other db's who had five interceptions for the year were just as good. I would franchise him in a heartbeat.
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    I think he's a really good tackler...
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    this is a real tough question .i would pay him if i knew for sure he would end up with the jets .but if i knew he would be in the nfc or out of our division i dont think i would pay him that much.but there is no way to know for sure so i guess i would pay him and not take a chance he ends up in green.the last thing the pats need is another player in green that knows our system inside and out.
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    I say keep him ,but as long as it works for both sides.. I think we could have a good young secondary with Hobbs and Samual tied up for the long hall, but if he wants to get paid, then let him get paid..
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    I think Asante will get his money one way or the other...Love for him to stay,but I think he will be wearing a different team logo...Hopefully it will be in the nfc...REDSKINS.....I think earn the right to get paid....He done his contract...I know this is a business....Smart move is tag & trade....Maybe this won't have to happen.....olive branch,good will ,but truly don't think it is going to work this way....Please no MEION DRAMA!!!
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    And 3rds are very rare it could be a 4th.

    I don't believe for a moment that we'd get less than a 2007 #2 for him if F&Ted. Why not take it ?

    Or my preference, trade him for a 2008 #1. With a full year putting Samuel on the credit card, interest free, some team would undoubtedly do that.
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    Redskins are over the cap in 2007 and Daniel Schneider has blown his wad.
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    Meanwhile, who replaces Samuel in 2007?
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    Our 2007 number one, of course!
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    That's the key to this whole thing IMO. I agree with what BF says about controlling his exit from the organization and getting somethning in return for him if he leaves.

    But it also seems like when BB and Pioli sit down to hash this out and decide if they want to start up negotiations again with Samuel, they have factors to consider like what's available in FA? What CB crop looks like in the draft?

    Seems like franchising him for a year while drafting his replacement/s this year might be the best way to go. He isn't going to like it, and it would likely make the chances of a long term deal next to none, but so what.
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    Well we have the $7M or so that we would have spent on him to improve the team. Whether it's an average CB and an upgrade somewhere else (London Fletcher ?) or a Nate Clements, whatever. If we spend the $7M well we can come out even on talent even if it's a drop at CB but an improvement elsewhere.
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    Oh great! Let's rely on a rookie cornerback in the 2007 NFL Playoffs.
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    The Skins are starting to sour on Portis. Why no franchise Asante and trade him for Portis? Cut Dillon, and then draft a CB at & 24. Resign Mickens & Poteat or another FA. Draft a FS or let Sanders stay at FS and put Geno at CB. :eek:
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    I hope for your sake this was one gigantic sarcastic post. Because you lost me at Portis.
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    I get it,like a reverse Champ Bailey trade. I'm sure Wahsington fans would love this trade as long as we sent our 2 1st rounders with it.
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    I totally agree
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    Samuel has been tackling well? REALLY? That's funny because I saw Maurice Jones Drew shrug him off like he wasn't even there. I watch Samuel HIT people well, but not TACKLE.

    It would seem you have the wrong player the last 8 games.
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    I think that you didn't mean to use the word alibi there because it doesn't make sense.

    Now, if you watch Champ Bailey, many of his ints he goes up and out battles the WR for them. Samuel just doesn't do that in my opinion. A healthy Randall Gay would have made those 5 interceptions no problem

    And no, it doesn't mean that other DBs who had 5 interceptions this year are just as good. You have to look at how they got theiere they just floaters because of tips or pressure on the QB or did the DB actually go up and get the ball.
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    I wouldn't do it. With those two first rounders we could trade up for a Calvin Johnson or Dwayne Jarrett and then pick up a good looking cornerback (either by trade for a veteran or a rookie). More things need to be addressed than the running back position and I haven't heard anything on Corey retiring.
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    3rds are not that rare. And, considering its based on the avg. yearly cap hit of the contract, I can easily see it surpassing the 6 million avg per year and that is a guaranteed 3rd round pick.
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    This team doesn't seem to be able to coach up rookies for full time play very well. Paying a premium for some continuity may be the way to go here.
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    Well what do you think it would take to get Calvin Johnson? Supposedly our #24+#28 can get us up to #8. Add in our #56 and maybe you can get Johnson. How in the world are you going to get a good looking CB in the 3rd round that can start? Jarrett may be available for the #24+#28, but no way he is worth that for us. You did not address LB which seems like it must not be overlooked. Any great LB in FA will have a franchise tage so there goes more pics, most likely round 1.

    You say that more things need to be addressed than RB, but then put out a plan that addresses much less. I threw Portis out there in sarcasm, but that would be a better plan that what you presented because at least we would still have all our draft picks and the ability to fill holes. With your big WR you are only able to fill 1 hole with a great player instead of filling many hole with quality players. It doesnt make sense to me. FYI, I said cut Dillon for Portis room, not him retire.
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