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Iran the mideast, Israel and the U.S.--Military capabilities and potential plans!!!

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  1. Blue Collar

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    I will just post the links...Lets work it,discuss it and debate. Cool?
    U.S. miltary capabilties and delivery systems.
    http://usmilitary.about.com/od/weapons/

    Military capabilities of Israel and the near and Middle east.
    http://www.inesap.org/bulletin21/bul21art05.htm

    Israel and the MidEast military arms race.
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf23.html

    Israel's new super quiet electric subs with superior nuclear launching platform.
    Able to navigate the suez canal for a surprise attack.
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/israel/sub.htm

    Israels military plans for Iran? I don't know about this link.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO505A.html

    Irans military capabilities:Nukes,dirty-chem-bio-bombs.Supply conventional and wmd's to the iraq insurgents...Fire missiles into israel and saudi arabia.
    Close down the strait of hormuz where 20% of the world's oil production is transitted everyday, and release Hizb'Allah that are in america already, or send them through americas southern border to attack the U.S.A. in terrorist fashion.
    http://www.kentimmerman.com/news/2006_03_01-nm-iran-attack.htm

    Terrorist organizations in AMERICA.
    http://www.emergency.com/islamusa.htm

    If any links are busted, I'll repair later on...

    Read it over and post your ideas,opinions and stratagies!!!
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    another war thread right of center posters, bring ''YOUR STRATEGY TO THE THREAD''///????????
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    A thread is here with lotsa info links, is that ok Right-Wingers???:D

    Man up time neo-cons and state your strategy and goals!!
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    #87 Jersey

    Reading all those will get me to sleep faster than cookies and milk.

    what kind of fuel are you taking BC ... you have a ton of energy.:p
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    It's not a youtube....And I have typed in the post...As YOU prefer when discussing politics...And this is Very Important to the U.S.A and the world's geo-politics and Energy demands and consequences....Want to discuss FBN???

    In a stalemate as we have right now with U.S. President George W Bush and Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejah....Where Bush said in his 2002 State of the Address to the American public and The world:

    That Iran is one of three countries in the Axis of Evil group that possess WMD's and Harbor Terrorist... The other TWO countries are N. Korea and IRAQ, and Iraq was the first of those three Evil of Axis countries that GWB built his case to america for the invasion to remove WMD's and Saddam Hussein who he said was linked to 911 and bin Laden's/Iman al Zarawi and Al Qeada , THE TERRORIST ORGANIZATION THAT PLANNED AND EXECUTED 911..Here's the whitehouse link: George W Bush SOTU to America and the World
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020129-11.html

    And the Experts discuss this speech in 2002 as to what happens to Bin Laden/Iman al Zarawi and Al Qaeda/ and the Taliban in Afghanistan.
    Where in october 2001 GWB went after the scumbag murdering thugs who hit us on 911......Here's that link, a very informative read!!!
    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/international/jan-june02/axis_1-30.html

    Here's CIA Field Commander Gary Bernstens Report on the Failed 2001 Mission to Kill or capture Bin Laden/Iman Al Zarawi and the Al Qaeda Members who escaped in the Tora Bora Battle.

    This was Bush War Response to the 911 Masterminds and terroris organization in afghanistan, shortly after that fatefull day: September-11- 2001 where 3000 Americans died.
    http://www.powdertracks.blogspot.com/2006/07/super-cia-agent-gary-bernsten-and.html

    And then President George W Bush and the Administration Built Their case and Explained the FACT's to America and the World that ''Saddam HAS WMD's'' and was ''connected to Bin Laden and Al Qaeda and 911''...
    Cost of that decision that Bush made to Invade Iraq $ 320 Billion and counting.
    http://costofwar.com/embed.html

    A 911 Tribute song for all those Fallen Americans that were mureded on september -11-2001:( (/ /and Heroes and Soldiers who sacraficed their lives in Afghanistan :( and then Iraq.:(

    A Beautiful rendition of Amazing Grace perfomed with bagpipes.
    http://breizhpartitions.free.fr/partos/hymnes/amazing_grace.mp3
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    GOOD MORNING patsfans and political posters....later today I have much more to add and build this thread....I have done a teensy weensy bit of searching and read a sentence or 2;)

    It will be VERY INFORMATIVE, for our knowledge, have a good day folks:)
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    Re: Iran the mideast, Israel and the U.S.--Military capabilities and potential plans!

    have at it bush boys
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    Re: Iran the mideast, Israel and the U.S.--Military capabilities and potential plans!

    Global Thermo-Nuclear War

    "Strange game......The only winning move is not to play"

    "How about a nice game of Chess?"

    -Joshua
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    Re: Iran the mideast, Israel and the U.S.--Military capabilities and potential plans!

    Iranian Minister: Attack Would Provoke Unimaginable Response
    Wednesday, July 02, 2008


    AP

    MADRID, Spain β€” With Middle East tensions building, Iran's oil minister warned Wednesday that an attack on his country would provoke an unimaginably fierce response.

    Minister Gholam Hossein Nozari said, however, that Tehran would not cut oil deliveries and would continue supplying the market even if struck by Israel or the United States.

    Tehran "is not going to be quiet," if attacked, Nozari told reporters. It's "going to react fiercely, and nobody can imagine what would be the reaction of Iran," he added.

    Over the weekend, the commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guards warned that Tehran would respond to an attack by barraging Israel with missiles and could seize control of a key oil passageway in the Persian Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz.

    But a senior U.S. military commander said Wednesday that Washington would not allow that to happen.

    Vice Adm. Kevin Cosgriff, commander of the 5th Fleet spoke to reporters after talks with naval commanders of Gulf countries in the United Arab Emirates capital of Abu Dhabi. The one-day meeting was to focus on the security of the region's maritime and trade routes and the threat of terrorism.

    U.S. Navy Commander Warns Iran: Don't Try Closing Gulf Oil Passageway The 5th Fleet is based in Bahrain, across the Gulf from Iran. Cosgriff said that if Iran choked off the Strait of Hormuz, it would be "saying to the world that 40 percent of oil is now held hostage by a single country."

    "We will not allow Iran to close it," he told reporters.

    Minister Nozari addressed rising tensions outside the 19th World Petroleum Congress after a presentation on Iran's oil and gas industry to a packed audience, including representatives of European and U.S. energy companies.

    Tehran is under U.N., U.S. and European sanctions because it has defied U.N. Security Council demands to suspend its uranium enrichment program. But with oil supplies tight and prices at unprecedented levels, the energy industry remains tempted by the possibilities of investing in Iran, OPEC's second largest oil producer and No. 2 in terms of the world's natural gas reserves.

    President Bush has repeatedly said that a military strike on Tehran is possible as a last-resort if Iran continues to pursues uranium enrichment and fails to heed other Security Council demands.

    Last month, Israel sent warplanes on a major exercise in the eastern Mediterranean that U.S. officials said was a message to Iran β€” a show of force as well as practice in the operations needed for a long-range strike mission.

    ABC News quoted an unnamed senior Pentagon official warning of an "increasing likelihood" that Israel will strike Iran's nuclear facilities before the end of the year.

    Nozari said such any attack would send oil prices further into uncharted territory.

    "We don't think the wise people in the world even think about any action like that," he said. "Can you imagine ... what would be the result in the oil market?"

    Oil prices hit a record high above $143 this week.

    But Nozari indicated Iran would not withhold its crude from the market even if attacked.

    "Iran has always been a reliable source of supply to the market, and Iran remains a (reliable) source of supply," he said.

    He dismissed suggestions that the standoff over Iran's nuclear program has diminished Iran's oil and gas exports, despite U.S. sanctions that prohibit American companies from doing business with Tehran and growing pressure from Washington on other countries to follow suit.

    "We have increased our production in the past two years by 250,000 barrels a day and we have added to the production of our gas," he told the AP.




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    Many Israeli officials argued against the Iraqi war. Like Shoher here: samsonblinded.org/blog/iraq
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    Re: Iran the mideast, Israel and the U.S.--Military capabilities and potential plans!

    BC, a lot of the first salvo of links is dated, though it's interesting to read years later. Some of the references to the NBC capabilities of Iraq are especially interesting in retrospect.

    I know you've got a second round, and without wading in with a bunch of opinions, I just want to urge use of more recent material more often.

    PFnV
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    Re: Iran the mideast, Israel and the U.S.--Military capabilities and potential plans!

    That was a pretty cool movie...it doesn't take a super computer to figure out the results of global nuclear war though.
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    Re: Iran the mideast, Israel and the U.S.--Military capabilities and potential plans!

    Good stuff Jack! If we think the economy is tenuous now, an attack upon Iran would send us into an international depression. It could also temp China to defend Iran and thus start WWIII.

    The human race has advanced so far in many respects and in others, we still seem barbaric....and stupid. I guess greed is the source of almost all world conflict.
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    Re: Iran the mideast, Israel and the U.S.--Military capabilities and potential plans!

    Greed indeed! Greed disguised as "freedom", "nationalism" and "righteous piety".
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