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  1. aabtec

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    OK..who are the Guards/Centers in this years draft that are the road graders. That you line and smash the DL in the mouth?

    Thanks
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    I completely concur.

    I saw Connelly and Koppen get beaten, esp. late in the game when it counted. Without Mankins and the acceptable OTs, we would have been beaten even worse. Connelly and Koppen got their asses kicked.

    Makes me wish for the guy just out of reach for us in 2009, Alex Mack, who has proved himself a bigger & better center than Koppen, whose weight gets to the low 290s by the season's end, I think.

    Just not powerful enough. I wish we had a bruiser like Mack. Six four and a little over 310.
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    I hope he is around at pick #33..

    Boling, Clint
    School: Georgia
    Position: OL
    Height: 6-5
    Weight: 315


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    Career: Named to UGA’s Team of the Decade.
    *Finished his career with 49 starts, including 38 in a row, and finished second in school history in starts for non-kickers.

    2010: Selected to the Pro Football Weekly All-America Team.
    *Named All-SEC First Team by SEC Coaches and Second Team by Associated Press and Phil Steele.
    *Selected as team’s offensive captain.
    *Earned team’s Leon Farmer Award for dedication to the strength and conditioning program.
    *Appeared in 13 games making 13 starts (six at LT, five at RG, two at RT).
    *Named to watch list for Outland Trophy.
    *Named preseason All-America second team by CBSSports.com and Athlon Sports and third team by Sporting News and Phil Steele.
    *Named preseason All-SEC first team by SEC Coaches, SEC Media, Athlon Sports, Phil Steele and Blue Ribbon and second team by Lindy’s
    *Preseason All-SouthernPigskin.com Team.
    *Recipient of the Wallace Butts Football Scholarship.

    2009: Named All-SEC first team by Sporting News and All-SEC Second Team by Associated Press and Phil Steele.
    *Received Honorable Mention from All-College Football Insiders.
    *Appeared in 13 games making 13 starts.
    *Started at right tackle for the first six games, made a start at right guard vs. Vanderbilt and then started the final six games at left tackle.
    *Named SEC Offensive Lineman of the Week (9/14) after helping Georgia tally 308 yards of offense vs. S. Carolina.
    *Named Preseason All-SEC First Team by Lindy’s and All-SEC Second Team by Phil Steele, SEC Coaches and SEC Media.
    *Named Best All-Around Offensive Player at conclusion of spring drills
    *Recipient of Wallace Butts Football Scholarship.

    2008: Named to CollegeFootballNews.com’s All-Sophomore Second Team.
    *Named First Team All-SEC by Associated Press, also Phil Steele’s All-SEC Second Team.
    *Appeared in 12 games making 12 starts.
    *Started at LT vs. No. 22 Vanderbilt, at No. 11 LSU, vs. No. 5 Florida, at Kentucky, at Auburn, vs. No. 18 Ga. Tech and vs. No. 19 Michigan State.
    *Named SEC Offensive Lineman of the Week (10/13) following win over Tennessee in which UGA tallied 458 yards of total offense; Boling started at right guard but an injury to a teammate forced him to move to left tackle during the game.
    *Started at RG at No. 24 Ariz. St., vs. No. 8 Alabama, vs. Tennessee.
    *Started at right tackle against Central Michigan and at South Carolina.
    *Named preseason All-SEC 4th team by Phil Steele.

    2007: Appeared in 13 games making 11 starts, 10 at RG and one at RT.
    *Freshman All-America First Team by Scout.com and Freshman All-America Second Team by Rivals.com.
    *Named SEC All-Freshman by SEC Coaches and Sporting News.
    *Made first-career start at RT before switching to RG for the final 10 games
    *Made Bulldog debut vs. Oklahoma St.

    High School: Chattahoochee…named to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution Class AAAAA First Team Offense…2006 Atlanta Journal-Constitution Top 50 In Georgia and Northside All-Area Team…Georgia Sports Writers Association Class AAAAA All-State Team…SuperPrep All-Dixie Team and Top 50 in the Dixie Region…Prep Star All-American…Voted All-Area Player of the Year…UGASports.com #22 Overall prospect in Georgia…Rivals.com Top 10 offensive line and Top 35 overall recruit in Georgia…Scout.com Top 5 offensive tackles in Georgia and No. 71 offensive tackle in U.S…honored as 2004 and 2005 Academic Athlete for Chattahoochee High School Football…started as tight end his sophomore year before moving to offensive line and defensive end his junior and senior years…Led his team to the playoffs his senior season…started for the basketball team…High School Coach: Terry Crowder.

    Personal: CLINT BOLING; Born: May 9, 1989; Major: Risk Management & Insurance.

    and another guy I would like to see in the flying elvis...

    Moffitt, John
    School: Wisconsin
    Position: OL
    Height: 6-5
    Weight: 323
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    The patriots don't draft road graders. We require that guards be pulling guards not road graders.
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    i want a John Hannah clone and than maybe we can run the Da&& ball.
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    John Hannah is listed at 265 pounds. I'm not sure he's what they need:eek:
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    Don't tell me his weight. He was a football player!

    In any case there are plenty of big interior linemen available in the draft. But you need more than size and weight to play in the Pats offense. You need skill, you need to be able to pass protect, pull, and run block. Koppen was playing well this year, but he got leaned on in the last Jets game. I don't think he's going to get any stronger. But OG is a concern. Mankins is pretty good but there's no guarantee we resign him. A tag and trade might be possible. I hope he realizes he's not gonna get 8m+ from the Pats.
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    All the more reason to draft a guy high if they think he can be both.

    That would probably mean a tackle conversion ala Mankins more than pure interior OL.
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    My choice for an OL would be John Moffitt from Wisconson. He is 6'4" 323lbs. He plays both center and guard. Has experience at both positions. He would fit the BB idea of flexibilty and would be an instant upgrade at the center size wise where Koppen gets tossed around like a rag doll.

    This is my FIRST post so fire away.
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    Do you know who he was and ever seen him play for us?
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    Yeah, just saying that he'd have nowhere near the success today. It was a slightly sarcastic response.
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    According to them that is true, but remember they had Vollmer with what a fifth round grade?

    Bottom line is Boling projects extremely well into our zone blocking scheme, better than any interior O line player I have seen in years.

    This kid is the one player BB MUST come away from this draft with, even if we keep Mankins. One year with Dante to work out a few bugs and we plug him into the starting lineup.
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    WOW. That is very high praise. I need to look up more info on this guy and watch some tape of him. We really need to get better on the interior. Connelly is just a backup and if hes starting at OG on your team you won't win a Super Bowl. Ellis absolutely destroyed him on two sacks and countless other hurries on Brady. Koppen needs to be upgraded as well. I think the Penn State kid might be a good fit.
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    Got my eye on Benjamin Ijalana OT, from Wes Bunting. Try to take him at 60 or maybe move up to 50 to grab him. I think he could start at Guard right out of the gate.

    "Impression: A downright dominant small-school blocker with a great physical/athletic skill set. Needs to continue to improve his footwork on his kick-slide, but he's a gifted enough athlete to pick that up quickly. The biggest question for Ijalana is, where does he best fit? He's long enough to play left tackle and physical enough to play guard. Either way he's one of the better offensive line prospects at this stage and in my view you let him get comfortable at guard in year one and see if he can make the move to left tackle in year two. "

    Another target at 60 or 73
    Jason Pinkston OG
    "Impression: He's physical and coordinated in the run game and very fluid redirecting vs. the pass. Just lacks the kind of range needed to play left tackle at the next level. However, he looks like a very capable right-sided player with significant potential if kicked inside to guard"
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    Good job. This kid is one of my favorites this year as well. I think BB will value his versatility as much as the rest of us. Most draft results project him going anywhere from 3rd to 6th round. I suspect he will go early 3rd or 4th. He has a good body of work and I think once teams assemble their draft boards they will find he was a very productive player.
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    Andrew Jackson. A mean, 6'5" 305 offensive guard whose ratings are all over the place-from a third round pick to a seventh round pick. Most importantly he's from Fresno State, so he's got the Pat Hill-Belichick connection and he's used to a zone blocking/combination blocking scheme like the Pats use.

    He's my mid-round (b)lock of the week candidate for NE.
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    I'm sure there is a John Hannah clone available. While we are at it hopefully we can add an Anthony Munoz clone at T, a Jerry Rice clone at WR, a Jim Brown clone at RB, and a Lawrence Taylor clone at OLB.
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    18 posts in and nobody's mentioned Danny Watkins? He may be the most talked-about Pats OG prospect.

    Watkins and Boling are my two plug 'em in guard prospects. Ijalana is an intriguing project a little later in the draft, and Moffitt seems like a strong utility guy.

    Center is tough this year. Mike Pouncey looks like a guard, not a center. Stefen Wisniewski is a good prospect, but I think he's going to be drafted like a Nick Mangold and he's just not that (especially given his shotgun troubles). I think Rodney Hudson has the makings of a good NFL center, but if I take an interior lineman in round 2 I want him to be ready to start.
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    Sweet. All we need now are 5 picks in the top 17 and some cap room! Super Bowl, here we come!
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