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    Rush does a good job dissecting this, but if you believe the ratings he is main stream media and all of this is a figment of his administration, as he is the mainstream.

    I am sure on the other side, there is the same thing from the right side media, I am confident Hannity, Rush, Coulter, Savage, O'Reilly all have had their say about the activist judges and how GWB is entitled to do what he is doing, under the guise of the war on terror.

    The unfortunate side effect is the continuing polarization of this country, on the left it is viewed as a victory on the right is the decision of an activist judge. Right now there is a constitutional violation which does not know party lines except in the media...
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    Irregadless, Hannity, Rush, Coulter, Savage, O'Reilly are not reporters, they are commentators, we expect an opinion from them. Reporters, are supposed to tell us the news without adding positive or negative words. For example, which of the following statements is closer to telling us the news, and which one is telling us the news with a negative connotation:





    Example A: The Bush administration was dealt a setback.

    Example B: This is a stinging setback for the President.

    Do you see what I am saying?
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    The difference IMO is that Rush as well as Hannity and Savage identify themselves as Entertainers with a POV and an agenda, whereas the MSM identify themselves as 'objective' journalist. That is where the dishonesty of the MSM becomes apparent (this 'dishonesty' wouldn't apply to Liberal columnist like E Clift for example she has a bias that is not hidden). Note that conservatives don't complain about the WaPo or NYT Editorial page, since that is where opinions are given, it is rather when editorial content and biases are used in reporting the news, that objections are voiced.
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    Did the pill-popper ever get around to explaining why this Judicial Decree should be overturned? Exactly how her ruling differs from precedent? or did he just go on and on about how he's right and the Judge is with the terrorists? I read maybe 600 words or so before giving up.

    btw adding opinion into any type of communication is as natural as Rush reaching for the Oxy bottle. Its the way our language is built, its the way our minds work. If you wanna read something that's completely opinionless, read Math equations.
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    You know that, but does mr. average american know it, I know a number of people who take their word verbatim and do not differentiate if he is a commentator or a reported. It makes no difference, he is as responsible as anyone for the polarization of this country. IMO let justice take its course, and respect the constitution... very simple very easy, too much rhetoric to much analysis.
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    You cant really blame Savage that people take thier word verbatim
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    From that story:

    KATE SNOW: We begin with a major blow to President Bush's war on terror.

    RUSH: Stop the tape just a second. That was Kate Snow, brilliant info babe, ABC. Do you note: President Bush's war on terror? Not America's war on terror, President Bush's war on terror.


    Title of another thread by ELOrocks17:
    Bush's War on terror SCREWING terrorists.

    Oh, and 'irregardless' isn't a word. 'Regardless' is. (-less means without. Irregardless is a double negative, and technically means 'with regard')
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    2 things here:

    1 is that i specifically worded it that way in response to NEM's 3 threads:

    Bush's "Faith Based Groups" are Screwing the Government
    Bush's Donut Hole Screws Seniors...
    Bush and His Neo Con Congress Screw Iraq Vets

    Secondly, the word "irregardless" is a word, although not proper..its still a word, Professor.
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    Well this was 1 judge, there will be an appeal and we'll see what the next set of judges decide.

    BTW some of the FISA judges testifying before congress this march said that the wire tapping program was legal in their opinion. So apparently they disagree with this particular judge.

    BTW how does one track terrorist using a track phone? How do you get a warrent for a disposable phone without a record?

    Do you think the FISA statute drafted in the 70's anticipated this sort of technology?

    Is the US constitution a suicide pact?
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    "Some people will say that words like scum and rotten are wrong for Objective Journalism--which is true, but they miss the point. It was the built-in blind spots of the Objective rules and dogma that allowed Nixon to slither into the White House in the first place. He looked so good on paper that you could almost vote for him sight unseen. He seemed so all-American, so much like Horatio Alger, that he was able to slip through the cracks of Objective Journalism. You had to get Subjective to see Nixon clearly, and the shock of recognition was often painful."
    He Was a Crook, Hunter S. Thompson

    Replace Nixon with Bush and there you have it. Nobody's ever really objective, and that includes the people creating the media.
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    Don't you think that when Savage does his daily rants people do not believe him?? All of those folks, who you call commentators, contribute to what has happened in this country... we are more polarized and politicized than we have ever been. Every news story, no matter what it is, has become political, unfortunately many people look to a few for their view of the truth. Look at Bill O'Reilly, and his famous call to boycott french goods... there were those who took it seriously, and there were those who saw right through it and kept on doing what they thought best for them.

    The reality is polarization and politicization serves this administration well, it keeps everyone at bay arguing and trying to yell louder than the next person, and then politicizing their yelling... it diverts everyone from the quest for the truth or something close to it. OTOH I suspect that this will continue for a while on both sides, until there is an american backlash and a serious reduction in listening to either sides propaganda machines.
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    You'd have a point if either of the docs you mentioned were unchangeable. Its been nearly five years now. If on 9-12, the Shrub implemented some stuff he though Congress would legalize shortly because we needed to respond right away, I'd have given him a pass. But he's got a friendly Congress and a friendly Supreme Court and 5 years of time to have worked with and still, he won't even pay lip service to our laws.

    So just how long did the pill-popper rant on about how the judge was wrong without explaining why?
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    #37 Jersey


    I am shocked that he was a drunk junkie, wait after reading that garbage, I am not.
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    Liberal Democrats wanted Rush Limbaugh banished from the world because he is hooked on "pain killers"

    These same people "worship" Hunter Thompson, the Hard Core Drunk/Junkie that didn't have the courage to face his demons and blew his brains all over his kitchen walls.

    My dogs better than your dog :rocker:
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    Hunter Thompson was not a left wing mouthpiece like Rush. Hunter did not have a nationally sindicated show that was on the radio daily like Rush does. Hunter did not pride himself on believing he knew everything political like Rush does. Hunter did not have a daily talk show that Al Gore or whoever a democratic VP called in on a regular basis. Hunter was what he was an author that had a huge following, he was not a political icon. He is political because you believe everything is political, some things are not even if you want them to be.
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    It's true, but isn't it funny how a drunk junkie had a way bigger clue than you?
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    Which is why the ACLU represented him...?
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    ACLU they love it when a Rush Limbaugh or a KKK Wizard comes along, it makes them look like they "Love Everybody" :singing:
    I'ts called "conning" Jessie Jackoff is a master at it, so is Billy Blue Dress.
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    And what was Rush's excuse for letting the ACLU represent him? It's not like he couldn't afford any representation he wanted.

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