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    Ian's Daily Blog - Looking accross the Twitter-verse this morning I noticed an interesting comment regarding Patriots linebacker Adalius Thomas, who was benched by head coach Bill Belichick on Sunday.Most reports indicated that Thomas being inactive was due to “performance related issues.”* Tom Curran of NBC Sports gave an interesting take via Twitter on the veteran’s “lack of effort”.“Did [...]

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    Apparently, three veterans were called out by Belichick for their performance in the DEN game, and had their starting positions taken away for a week. Two responded well. The other responded with attitude and was inactivated for the game.
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    Ah...the plot thickens. First, break his strong will, then rebuild.
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    When a guy has 20M in the bank, it's a little hard to "break his will".

    Hopefully BB has learned from this. Don't overpay for "talent". AT is just another guy and he's being paid like a superstar. It's a shame.

    I don't see this one working out well.
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    I'm not smart enough to figure out his contract totally but it looks like he's cuttable this offseason without a big cap hit as his salary increases to about $5M next year. We have too many young players to have a bad attitude if those quotes were accurate. Right now he has us over a barrell but I doubt he'll be with us next season unless I'm totally misunderstanding his cap situation.
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    Great post, Ian. It's pretty well-known that BB benched AD due to performance. But what I am trying to figure out is when things started going wrong. Based on this excerpt from BBs PC yesterday, I found these comments interesting...

    Coach Bill Belichick was asked how things will proceed with Thomas this week.

    “Everything’s the same for every player,’’ Belichick said. “They’ve all got the same job: come in, learn the game plan, be ready to go. Substitutions and playing time are all coaches’ decisions; they’re not players’ decisions.

    “A player’s job is to be ready to play, and if he’s put into the game, then go out there and play his best. All 53 guys, it’s the same for all of them.’’


    Sounds like his beef with AD went beyond game performance and a couple of weeks ago. He was missing practices and when he was in practices, he wasn't applying himself.

    I think back to when Seymour skipped out to attend his grandfather's funeral and BB did not start him for the Denver 2003 MNF game. People said that his benching had nothing to do with the death, rather it was BB making an effort to adjust Seymour's attitude.

    May be the same set of circumstances here.

    Just wish that this would go away an AD would start wrecking offenses and play to his potential.

    My .02$
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    Makes one wonder if Ellis Hobbs offseason comments about veterans who had already gotten paid taking plays off/not playing hurt applied to Seymour AND Thomas.
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    I was thinking the exact same thing.....
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    Parcell's would be putting a gas can above Adalius Thomas's locker asking if anything is left in the tank at this point.
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    If this guy doesn't change by the end of the season, cut him. He's costing us too much and giving too little. Screw this *****.
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    Trade him before next season. I was already annoyed with the guy anyway. Pretty sad when I had a better feeling seeing 59 making a play on the ball carrier than 96.
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    A trade would be an accellerated $3m cap hit. Not sure what an outright cut would mean to the cap.

    Either way, I agree. If the perception is reality, then it's best to cut their losses and go in a different direction.
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    If there is no cap next year does it matter? You could get SOMETHING out of a trade. What would he be worth to a LB hungry team as far as picks?
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    No trade value unfortunately.

    This was a major blunder. Paying this guy so much and tying so much money up in him. Sets a very bad example, taking the money and laughing all the way to the bank. Clubhouse lawyer to boot. Classic malcontent.

    They may cut him this year.
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    I wouldn't be surprised if AD wants to rush the passer more. In his 3 years here, we haven't used him as a pass rusher exclusively for any stretch of time. Still, that's certainly no excuse for dogging it.
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    I've already wired the Jets and Browns. Expect a reply from Wrecks and Ratman by end of day.
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    You are right, I re-looked at Miguel's page - that is manageable, however, if things have gone wrong unlike the $7.3M it would have cost this year.
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    Why not try letting Thomas play more of the role Burgess has been asked to getting after the passer, and let Burgess drop in coverage more... they both have been ailing respectively.
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    His salary is 5M next year or something like that. At that salary, no I don't think there's any demand.

    If he were signed for 1M maybe, but he's not.
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    And again, that is only if there is a cap next year, RIGHT?
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    I think we've all felt that he has underperformed. Personally, I thought he filled in on the inside admirably his first season. He was having a decent first half last season, but it wasn't his fault that he got injured . . . it happens. This year, however, has been a different story. He's look slow and lackadaisical.

    On a related note, I'm surprised to find that Bodden was included in this whole fiasco. I was wondering why Butler got the nod on Sunday. I hope Bodden gets his act together. I hope they both do. They're both very talented and could do many great things if they play at a high level.
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    Sigh, another ex Raven's linebacker that didn't do as well after leaving their system.......
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    I'd like to see AD rush the pass more, too. I'd like to see TBC, Burgess, AD on the field in the nickel D at the same time, if that means one less DL, so be it, I think the versatility would be a bonus.

    Our secondary has proven reliable. I think we can start rushing 5 at a higher percentage, the pass rush would be more effective. Imagine a nickel D where Wilfork & Wright apply interior pressure, TBC & Burgess come from the edges, and AD blitzes.
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    What's intruiging is the timing of Hobbs comments, and BB's apparant "warnings" to 3 veterans.

    Could BB have seen Hobbs' remarks and thought to himself, "you know, he's right"? Or, was BBs decision completely unrelated to Hobbs?
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    Who knew Adalius was such a little pansy? I guess we should have known after his whining in the offseason about the NFL season possibly being expanded to 18 games.

    And I guess he whined about the Seymour trade as well, apparently. You'd think someone who has done so little would not talk so much.
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    AD - WLB rushing more
    Mayo - MLB
    Guyton/Seau- SLB or a DB for a nickle look

    McGowan, Merriweather - Safties

    Bodden/Springs or Bodden/Butler or really any combo of the CB's...

    Thats pretty stout to me.
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    Except that every time I see AD rush, he is STONED. Just flailing away helplessly. Kind of like a turtle when you put it on its back.

    He's pretty good as a coverage linebacker and pretty good inside in a 3-4. Or was, when he didn't have a bad attitude.
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    Gasper added this nugget during his Boston.com chat today.....AD talking with reporters this week :'The more you can do the better, but not always."
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    Media comments seem to indicate that Springs and Bodden didn't respond well to media criticism of their performance against Denver and tried to shift blame to the scheme. That never plays well in Foxboro. Heard some AD presser today while out in the car and he seems to be trying to both send a message to Bill and get the media to let it go before he says something they can make him regret. Fat chance either will work in his favor. Now we know why Bill sent for the Graduate... He will flat out embarass any thirty something veteran who isn't getting it done.

    I still would not be surprised if AD's attitude doesn't have something to do with becoming the player rep under an expiring CBA. Seemed to increase Vrabel's edge off the field at a time when his edge on the field was diminishing, too.

    It's really too bad EHIII wasn't 2 inches taller.
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    I take that as AD is saying that he believes that he is not as effective if he is asked to do too much in this D.

    It's one thing to tell your manager that you can handle what is on your plate but because of workload you need extensions on deadlines, etc. It's another thing to say that you don't have the ability. What an absolutely stupid thing to say. He needs to perform and not make excuses.

    No way he is with the team next year....no way.
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