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  1. CISGS

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    The first thing that was glaring to me (and honestly surprised me a little) was the disconnect that showed with Peyton and his teammates.

    Peyton Manning

    • Wes pumping the team up, he just stands there still. Says nothing.
    • Champ trying to pump him up pre-game and he basically said nothing.
    • Immediately blaming his center as they jog off the field after the first play.
    • Constant excuses about the line. Horrible body language (which we expect).
    • I didn't see any pump ups or leadership. I respect manning immensely as a person, have always thought he was overrated as a player.

    Russell Wilson

    • Amazing leadership and poise. This kid is going to be incredible.
    • He reminds me of a mix of Brady and Brees with more mobility. I don't see him being better than either, but I love his upside and root for him.


    Legion of Boom

    • This is a legitimate family between that defense. That's scary af for the rest of the league. They trust each other and they just fit amazingly well together.
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    Why do people respect Peyton as a person? None of us here know much about him. We don't know much about Brady either. Sure, both seem like nice guys, but we don't know their past and personal lives. Peyton had a bad incident in which he planted his anus and scrotum on a female trainer in college. She sued. Maybe that was a really bad moment, way out of character. Maybe a lot of people had bad moments like that. Years later, though, he slandered that woman in a book he wrote by saying she was coarse and had a potty mouth. That doesn't show great character, to me.
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    Nobody project disaster like manning
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    My dad works for the nfl. Has never said anything negative about him.

    I have seen him numerous times after games and he was always very respectful and polite to everyone I saw him talk to (stadium personnel at away stadiums, kids, the like).
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    Manning had no life, leadership or tried to get his guys going at the SB.
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    Peyton Manning has never been a "rah-rah" type of guy from what I understand and have seen. I don't know why people are surprised or are knocking the guy? That's who he is and that's who he's always been. He's one of the best quarterbacks of all time, he's not good as Brady and never will be as good as Brady. But to say he's "overrated" as a player is quite simply moronic and erases all the credibility you have.

    Now get over it and move on. We have a season to get ready for, we'll meet him again next year at some point and we'll lay the wood to him.
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    Yes, and let's not forget he embarrassed the Pats in the AFCCG. I'm all for piling on him and making fun of his huge forehead, but the Seahawks would have handled NE just as easy. Maybe not 43-8, but something like 27-7.
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    These are the same people that get mad when Brady sulks on the bench by himself.

    I think older cerebral QBs, especially the great ones, are a little out of touch with their bang, bang smash your helmet together teammates.

    Gronk and Brady excluded.
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    I love when people make uneducated general assumptions.
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    PM may not have been up enough for the game, he may have not taken responsibility sufficiently for certain plays, you/we may not like him, however, I have it first hand from a long time reporter at ESPN that PM is a very genuinely nice guy (no, not one of the jackasses at ESPN -- this is one of their female reporters).
    Take that for what it's worth.....
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    USATODAY.com - Trainer has backers in suit against Mannings

    It's the type of thing (sexual harassment) that could put you in jail. But we are talking about Peyton Manning here. Instead this girl trainer is asked to leave Knoxville. The name Manning carries a lot of power for some reason.
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    I don't see Brady sulking. When you watch the sound fx and stuff he isn't sulking.
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    You see it complained about on game threads a lot. It happens often - they wouldn't show it on SoundFX anyway.
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    So you found one thing in the 17 year sample size of Manning, that happened when he was in college?

    Yeah you're right. He's a bad person.
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    He may have royally effed up that day, in a way I never have. But I'm going to say he deserves a one-off for that. But what shows really bad character is to slander her years later in his book. That shows he had no remorse and instead thought it was something she deserved. I bet the female ESPN reporter is unaware of what he did.
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    It's more than that.

    What bugs me is that he showed no remorse, and years later he slanders her as though she deserved it. If any of us had done something like that, wouldn't we show remorse? This woman was fired after this. Then he compounds it by insulting her in a book. That's pretty low character.
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    None of us are angels either. I hope Peyton's family life and kids are ok. But if someone's treated like that, it's your right to cheer for his opponent on the football field.
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    He learned everything from Archie, probably even the pouting, or Manning Face, that we've seen so often over the years.

    What brought out the lawsuit from the young lady wasn't the tea-bagging itself, but to see Peyton and his dear old dad yukking it up about her, in a book of all places.

    I remember hearing Archie whining to millions of people, on CBS radio the morning of the SB in 2007, about how Fran Tarkenton didn't belong in the HOF.

    And now we hear that, in spite of the hundreds of millions that the family has made, young Eli might be involved in a scam over jerseys he sells.

    That doesn't sound like class to me, but I understand why a fawning public doesn't want to hear about it. They prefer the phony Manning image.
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    Thread seems to have gone off the rails a bit to a discussion of Manning's character rather than his leadership (which I think was the OP point).

    To me, these are pretty damning observations above — not about character, but about leadership.. I also felt like, as much as people thought Manning was so classy in his calm post-game press conferences, I want to see some competitive fire there, some sense of the pain. Not in a staged way or maudlin way — but something that didn't convey so much detachment from what just happened.
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    How would you feel if that trainer was your daughter? That he's a great guy because its the only vile offense you know about?
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    I was about to post the same thing about Peyton immediately blaming the center after the safety.
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    That's because your character traits affect your leadership. If it's never your fault, or if you give a vibe that you are more important than the rest of the team, If you're act like you have a stick up your rear and your teammates tense up anytime they are around you(Super Bowl 2014: Peyton Manning Is Mr. Annoying - WSJ.com), if you play the blame game to the media, those types of character things affect your leadership ability.
    If you win, it's not as much a problem and these issues don't come to the forefront.
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    I've never seen Manning as a natural leader.

    He always seems a bit detached from his teammates...almost too professional.

    Not that being vocal and 'rah-rah' is completely necessary. But I do believe there are times-- escpecially at the quarterback position, where you have to challenge your teammates vocally and interject a sense of urgency and expectation....emotion is such a huge part of the game and in my opinion it's one reason why Brady is so good at rallying his offense when faced with adversity, and why Manning is more of a front-runner who plays great when things are good but tends to collapse when he's up against it.
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    There are many different leadership styles. Admittedly, some of Peyton's teammates get tense around him in the locker room from the article written above. Versus what Russel Wilson told his teammates. Somebody's gonna win the game, "Why not us?" One of those can put unnecessary pressure on players. The other allows your teammates to play loose. One team looked uncharacteristically unprepared and tense. Peyton looked scared. Wilson and the whole Seahawks team played loose, aggressive, had confidence and swagger.
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    ...which is absolutely nothing, especially coming from one of the 4-letter network's
    ignorant bimbo reporters.
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    I have nothing but disgust for Paymetons and I'll tell you why...a long time ago when he first broke into the league I caught up to him boarding a team bus and asked him to sign my puppy, Spike's, dog collar...instead he kicked my precious little pooch right in the head and ran onto the bus...do ANY of you realize what kind of negative lifelong effects that can have on a young, innocent year old bull mastiff puppy?

    Fortunately, with a little love and a few hundred pounds of chopped beef bones, Spike grew into a confident, happy go lucky guard dog.
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    That is a disgustingly outrageous story. I believe every word of it. :eek:
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    Please tell us that you use the word Manning as Spike's command to attack.
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    This is bizarre: As Naughright described it in a deposition entered into the court record: "It was the gluteus maximus, the rectum, the testicles and the area in between the testicles. And all that was on my face when I pushed him up. ... To get leverage, I took my head out to push him up and off."

    The court record includes a letter to Manning from former Tennessee cross country runner Malcolm Saxon, who Manning said was the intended target of the mooning. Written in December 2002, the letter reads, in part: "Bro, you have tons of class, but you have shown no mercy or grace to this lady who was on her knees seeing if you had a stress fracture. ...

    "She was minding her own business when your book came out. Peyton, the way I see it, at this point, you are going to take a hit either way, if you settle out of court or if it goes to court. You might as well maintain some dignity and admit to what happened. ... Your celebrity doesn't mean you can treat folks that way. ... Do the right thing here."

    So, anyone know how this lawsuit ended?
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    Nope...alas poor spike has since gone on to the big pound in the sky but when he was here the word was....

    "OMAHA!!!"

    another reason I hate Manning's guts...he ripped of my attack command...oh wait, no...no he didn't...I didn't just say that...I NEVER said that...I was never there...Darius Butler did it...:lie:

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