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Injuries have just caught up to the patriots this year...not an excuse but a fact

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  1. marcus

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    Actually for the Patriots to be 7-5 at this point, in my view is an accomplishment.

    Every one of those players are trying the best. They are NOT underperforming. They are simply undermanned with quality players.

    The losses of Brady, Adalius Thomas, Warren, Lamont Jordan, Maroney, Harrison and lack of a 2nd quality CB are just too much to overcome


    Its easy to feel disappointed after last years incredible season...

    but its just not their year, but still they are easy to root for.
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    Re: Injuries have just caught uip to the patriots this year...not an excuse but a fac

    cant dispute that
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    Re: Injuries have just caught uip to the patriots this year...not an excuse but a fac

    Yeah, all the turnovers and dropped passes were due to injuries.
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    Re: Injuries have just caught uip to the patriots this year...not an excuse but a fac

    Lets just face facts..the Steelers are a much better team. They have a much better defense and have played a much tougher schedule and are simply better this year, period.

    Some of those turnovers and dropped passes may have something to do with the Steelers.


    They will be tough to beat
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    Re: Injuries have just caught uip to the patriots this year...not an excuse but a fac

    and we lost woods and welker today for at least part of this game
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    Re: Injuries have just caught uip to the patriots this year...not an excuse but a fac

    Even with the injuries we're still in this game without the drops and Slater's fumble. Also Light getting toasted for 2 fumbles can't really be pinned on injuries.
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    Re: Injuries have just caught uip to the patriots this year...not an excuse but a fac

    Come on man.. EVERY team in the league right not has bumps and bruises. ESPECIALLY towards the end of the season.
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    Re: Injuries have just caught uip to the patriots this year...not an excuse but a fac

    how many of the teams with a winning record don't have the QB that started the season for them?
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    Re: Injuries have just caught uip to the patriots this year...not an excuse but a fac

    Ben had a pretty good season as a back up, and I think Brady did too..
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    Re: Injuries have just caught uip to the patriots this year...not an excuse but a fac

    Smokin3000gt does this mean your car is burning oil? Thy haven't made those in awhile. ;)
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    Re: Injuries have just caught uip to the patriots this year...not an excuse but a fac

    Yeah, we've been hit by injuries, but it's not like our pass defense has been hit by injuries and that's our worst unit. Harrison is out, but he was a liability in pass coverage. It's not like Brady or Maroney will be back there covering receivers. And before AD got hurt, he wasn't really being used as a pass rusher anyways. We could have Brady and Maroney back there on offense, but our pass defense would still suck. Every game will be like the Miami game where we had to outscore people and the margin for error wouldn't be that big.

    Face it, BB took the risk this season when he let Samuel, Gay, and Wilson go and replaced them with Bryant, WEbsters, Sanders and the rookies. It's not working out and even if we make the playoffs and AD comes back, it's not gonna make a big difference in our secondary.

    Our CBs play 10 yards off the receivers because they know they'll get burned for long gains if they stay too tight. Injuries or not, Hobbs and Oneil are below average CBs and they are killing us.
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    As of right now, I would say that it's the lack of Adalius that's hurting us the most.** As I said in the other thread, our two rookies in the LB corps are raw. Deltha O'Neal is not the best cornerback in the league but not even Deion Sanders would have been able to stick with a receiver for 15 seconds in this defense. The pass rush NEEDS to improve or we'll see more and more 3rd and 15s converted on a regular basis.

    ** - This is, of course, excluding #12- the heart and soul of this football team.
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    For perspective, here's the Patriots' Week 1 roster and depth chart.

    Starter
    Injured Reserve
    Missed significant time and/or current IR candidate
    No longer with team
    Currently in Practice Squad
    Promoted from Practice Squad/added to roster since Week 1

    QB
    Tom Brady
    Matt Cassel
    Kevin O'Connell
    Matt Gutierrez

    RB
    Laurence Maroney
    Sammy Morris
    Kevin Faulk
    LaMont Jordan
    Heath Evans
    BenJarvus Green-Ellis

    WR
    Randy Moss
    Wes Welker

    Jabar Gaffney
    Sam Aiken
    Kelley Washington
    C.J. Jones

    TE
    Benjamin Watson
    David Thomas
    Stephen Spach
    Tyson DeVree

    OL
    Matt Light
    Logan Mankins
    Dan Koppen
    Stephen Neal
    Nick Kazcur

    Russ Hochstein
    Billy Yates
    Mark LeVoir
    Wesley Britt
    Lonie Paxton
    Dan Connolly
    Oliver Ross
    Ryan O'Callaghan
    Barry Stokes
    Anthony Clement

    DL
    Richard Seymour
    Vince Wilfork
    Ty Warren

    Jarvis Green
    Mike Wright
    Le Kevin Smith
    Kenny Smith

    LB
    Adalius Thomas
    Tedy Bruschi
    Jerod Mayo
    Mike Vrabel

    Pierre Woods
    Gary Guyton
    Larry Izzo
    Shawn Crable
    Eric Alexander
    Bo Ruud
    Vince Redd

    DB
    Rodney Harrison
    James Sanders
    Ellis Hobbs
    Deltha O'Neal

    Brandon Meriweather
    Tank Williams
    Terrence Wheatley
    Jonathan Wilhite
    Lewis Sanders
    Raymond Ventrone
    Matthew Slater
    Jason Webster
    Antwain Spann
    Mike Richardson

    K/P
    Stephen Gostkowski
    Chris Hansen
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    for all the up and downs I think our team has played more than I(we) expected....today we were out played,coach and all the above....We will bounce back if not this year,but next....I will be always a fan no matter what...today it totally suck *****...GO PATS!!!!
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    i have to agree; now simply too many

    be 7-5 is still an awesome season

    without so many starters we are making a nice run
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    Re: Injuries have just caught uip to the patriots this year...not an excuse but a fac

    No, the first one can be linked to Sammy Morris running right by Harrison (who had already beaten Light) without chipping him - it also didn't hurt Pit to have a 10 point lead late in the third quarter forcing NE to abandon the run. So a mistake on Special Teams and a mistake by the RB (my best guess given situational awareness should have suggested Pit was bringing the house - and recognized that Light was beaten) sets up the strip sack. The second strip sack came after Pit created an overload to the right side drawing Faulk to pick up a blitzer and leaving Light one on one with Harrison - again no run game involved with NE trying to play catch-up.
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