Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by KDPPatsfan85, Jan 13, 2011.
Ineligible prez cited as reason to kill Obamacare
World Net Daily :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Hows Bat Boy Doing?
Why are people still going on about this???
Get over it!!! God damn....
Instead of talking about the issues, they would rather change the subject....this is why nothing ever gets done....losers
NEWSFLASH! We are all immigrants in one way or the other!! but but but the Constitution says so!!!! It also says you can own a slave.:bricks: Don't make it right if thats your justification
If Obamacare is in danger of being killed because there may be a question as to Obama being an American citizen then maybe it's time Obama showed us "THE REAL THING"
Ugh the whole Birther thing is so pointless...
Why does it matter though Harry?
Let's say he's not for the sake of argument, does that mean that healthcare is not important? does that somehow make the new healthcare law void?
Its just some people trying to change the subject so they don't have to deal with the real issue....Some things matter, this doesn't.:bricks:
You ever played the game, where they have 3 cups and 1 ball and you try to guess what cup the ball is in? its the same thing, they are trying to distract you long enough to
switch the ball around to where you forget where its at. My grandpa always tells me, "Son keep your eye on the ball" its all about forgetting about the distractions and focusing on what's at hand=)
To me it doesn't matter if you where born here or not, its not about being born in a country or a place its about sharing the same ideals and wanting something better for yourself and your fellow man.
World Net Daily has less credibility than did Pravda in the 70's...
It is roughly euivalent to TMZ for news..
Joe Farah is proud of his followers, keep contributing, his bank account grows and grows over non issues..
The CT SS numbers have been explained for years now. SS numbers are processed based on the return address on the enveloped and Obama's father lived in CT for several years. Of course, this only means anything if anyone really has Obama's SS numbers.
Meanwhile, the new gov of Hawaii, who said he knew the Obama's when Barrack was born, said he wants to find a way to release whatever info the Hawaii government has available. But, I hardly see the point, since the idiots who think Obama wasn't born here don't accept his official (duplicate) birth certificate, the birth announcements that appeared in two Hawaii papers, and other evidence that Obama was born here. In my opinion, birthers are racists who simply believe that someone like Obama can't be one of us.
Um, I'm not a birther at all, but he's never released his birth certificate. The birth notice, or certification thing, is not a genuine birth certificate.
lol, So the 2 newspapers that printed the birth are lying too? Its all a big conspiracy Real World there out too get you!!!
Its so funny how people want proof, then get it and then ***** about how its not good enough for them.....come on man.....you and the rest can take your Dog and pony show down the road.
Not everything is a conspiracy, sometimes the truth just hurts....Obama is our 43rd president and while I not too thrilled about the job he has done, he's still our president. Keep your eye on the ball
Too funny, I was thinking about that right after I wrote it....:rocker:
It's a birth certificate, an official "certification of live birth." You're falling for the tea baggers line when you say it's not a birth certificate.
A Massachusetts birth certificate is called a Certificate of Birth, so by your reasoning it's not a birth certificate. In CA, it's called a Certification of Vital Records. If Obama's document is not a birth certificate, it means there are tens of thousands of Hawaians getting official documents without birth certificates.
Maybe you can't read, but no where did I say that the newspaper was lying to anyone. I simply said that he has never shown his birth certificate. Personally, I think his BC will show that he was indeed born in Hawaii. I bet it has something on it that he doesn't want people to see though. Like I said before, I'm no birther.
Sorry Patters. It's not a birth certificate. No matter how often you link factcheck, it is not, and will never be a genuine BC. The real deal is under lock and key. Like I said before, I'm no birther, but what he released isn't a genuine BC. Certs of live birth are a separate document.
You can push the birther line and say you're not a birther all you want, but a certificate of live birth is in fact a birth certificate:
Birth certificate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What is your definition of a birth certificate? Mine is an official document that certifies birth. The Hawaii short form is the official document that certifies birth and is a birth certificate. I've never seen any evidence that it's not considered a valid birth certificate where birth certificates are required; otherwise, Obama (and many others) would not have his passport.
But, by all means post some evidence supporting your point of view? And try not to rely on the birthers for your evidence.
They are two different forms Patters. Simple fact pal. Wait, let me go link Wikipedia and factcheck. Hold on...
Do you even know what "birth certificate" means? Many states have two different forms. What's your point? States determine what is and isn't a birth certificate. In Hawaii, the short form is the birth certificate you get when you lose your long form. Hawaii's long form contains more info than the New York birth certificate. Does that mean the New York birth certificate is not a birth certificate? Real, it sounds like you've bought a line of bull from the birthers, but by all means explain yourself: Define birth certificate and then explain why the Hawaii short form is not a birth certificate.
When a Hawaiin goes here and requests a birth certificate, they get the short form:
Hawai‘i State Department of Health
But, maybe you know what a birth certificate is and the state government don't! More likely, you've simply bought the birther line and can't even define birth certificate in a way that excludes the Hawaii short form.
LOONS HATE ALL THIS:
Why does the women that worked in the records department in city hall keep saying to the media "i saw the official certificate" what is she talking about, if there is an "official certificate" in other words one that is different from the yellow piece of paper that Jug Ears waves around why won't he let Chris Matthews show it on live TV to the world this one act alone would guarantee him a second term.
If Barry Jug Ears gave Chris Matthews the honor of "showing the birth certificate" on live TV sappy Chris would have three straight Orgasms, he would p!ss his pants, he would give himself a hernia screaming and yelling then he would start gagging and drop dead from drowning on his own drool.
"where was i born"
Which state is Hawaii ... 50 - 51 - or 52?
They are two different documents, which is the reason why they are different, and have different names. That's all I'm saying.
Well, duh, they are obviously two different documents, but they are both birth certificates, and you have provided no evidence to support your view that one is not. Further, you refuse to define what you mean by birth certificate.
My evidence was the Hawaii state government record site that calls the document a birth certificate, Wikipedia, and Factcheck.
In Hawaii, you get a long form birth certificate when you're born, and if you lose that you get the short form. Both of them are birth certificates. Any other point of view is birther, and I think you've been duped by the birthers into believing something you can't substantiate.
Here's how it's done:
How To Get An Original Birth Certificate
And just what exactly does this site tell you to do, Harry?
Since it's obvious you didn't bother reading it, I'll help you out: (It's not even written in accurate English, btw, which means I'd suspect it as a valid site to begin with....but maybe only those of us who concern ourselves with such things would have a problem with a site which not only doesn't give any real information but doesn't give it gramatically. Call me anal, but 5 errors in 2 sentences seems a bit like, I don't know, an unreliable source.)
Departments of Health in different places may required different procedure of getting a original birth certificates.
Try contact the Department of Health or the Town Clerk from your local City Hall.
Very helpful, Harry....certainly clears it up for anyone interested.
Google is your friend. Just like Wiki.
They are two different documents. One is more complete than the other.
Separate names with a comma.