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  1. italia44

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    I heard this on ESPN.....
    Jaws was talking about the Patriots and said the Pats are only giving up 1.8 yards per play in the Red zone and this is by far the best average in the NFL.

    When you think about it,this really is incredible.It indicates that even when teams enter the Red zone against the Pats,they are either unsuccessful or it takes them an above average amount of plays to score.
    This is really "bend,not break".
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    Actually, according to Football Outsiders, the Pats D in 2006 is only 19th in the 20 yards farthest from the end zone (i.e., when the opponents have to travel the whole length of the field to score); it steadily improved, from 19th to 15th to 9th to 5th to 3rd, as opposing Os approached the end zone. And, even more remarkably, they were one of two teams (the other being BAL) that far outstripped the rest of the NFL in pass D in the red zone.

    In other words, the 2006 Pats D is exactly what Dr. Belichick ordered--a "bend but don't break" D that actually gets tougher and tougher the farther you push them. :robot:
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    Which has been our trademark during the "ring" years :D
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    Dean Peas and Belichick have done a GREAT job with the D this year. Kudos to them.
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    Usually Coles plays us well until the Red Zone area ...ohhhh they are so toast.
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    Forcing teams to go on long multi play drives, only to be denied or get a FG when you get to the RZ. It's got to be frustrating to the other team.

    Forcing these types of drives is a form of ball control, especially late in the game and the opponent needs multiple drives to catch up.

    Love the bend but don't break.
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    It shows our weakness in the secondary. As the field gets shorter their coverage improves.
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    Some incredible stats this year on D. My favorite is only 10 TD passes given up all year, hell, I think Starks gave up more than 10 BY HIMSELF last year !
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    not a bad defense...
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    This is the type of thread that tells the tale of how this team does what it does.. all the while people and whine and moan about how we do not stretch the field on offense and we need a big play receiver. Our front 7 in the D is very good, and they are complimented by an ok secondary. If given the choice for this statistic or to have an O who has x number of long passes, I would choose the former. Even though they are good, I suspect that this will be a focus of the draft and free agency.
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    That's an amazing stat, especially when one considers that we played some tough teams and had (have) a lot of injuries on D. What I don't understand is why pundits don't consider the Pats more of a threat to win the SB? I think our stats compare with anyone's, and it looks like our O might be starting to gel.
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    When the Pats signed Caldwell, the Globe said something to the effect of "Caldwell only had 1 TD last year, but even that comes with an asterisk, since it came against Patriots cornerback Duane Starks."
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    actually it shows they are willing to give up the short pass in order to not give up the big play. As the field gets shorter the big play disappears and they can then cover the short routes which is exactly what it appears is happening based on the statistics.
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    This will be an important consideration this Sunday. With the Jets control-based short passing attack, we will probably allow them significant yardage, but it will take a great number of plays to get there. There were those fluky breaks in Game 2 this year where missed tackles killed us, but for the most part, if we can make them chip away at us, there is a higher probability for T/Os, especially if the home crowd is rambunctious as it should be.

    Gillette...lets hear your lungs!
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    Watching Smerlas & DeOssie on NE Tailgate, they reviewed the last Jets-Pats game film and showed where there were several Penny 'floaters'; had the Pats CBs taken a timely break on the ball they could have been INTs. I'm sure this has been coached.
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    Around week 5 or so of last season, CBS showed a "red zone" graphic that said something to the effect that to that point in the season, every single time a team pushed the Pats D into the RZ, the Pats D gave up a touchdown. :eek: Needless to say, they turned things around in the second half of the season, but given what we got to see in 2003 and 2004, that was a very depressing stat. :(
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    IMO, our defense doesn't even "bend." We stifle our opponents. We have one of the best defenses in the league no matter how you look at it.
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    As far as I'm concerned, flying under the radar is exactly where I want to be. The last thing a team needs is to be told how "great" they are. Big heads burst easily, "on any given Sunday".

    Hype the Bolts, Blackbirds, Colts, whomever. Fine with me. All I care about is who wins the trophy. The last one standing.



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    The D has been good, and I do not want to take anything away, but ...

    let's face the fact that the competition has been much weaker this year than in some recent years and next year. Last year we had the AFC West and the NASCAR division. This year, the black and blue division (NFC North) was more the like the gray and powder blue division, and the AFC South had one really good offense (and we lost). The AFC East, while having some good defenses, was a weak offensive division.

    So I like the stats, but I do not think the competiion is what it was in 03-05.
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    And many of our home games were played on a junk field.

    Again, you play the schedule and the conditions, but there were some reasons for the D maybe looking a little better than in the past.

    The secondary, even with but especially without Rodney, scares me. The LBs are solid, but not what they've been (how many big Vrabel or Tedy plays?). The D-line is the strength. I'd like to see more 4-3.
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    We must, however, keep in mind the fact that we had Seau in the middle of the field for the majority of the season. He's a leader and he was a major reason we STUFFED the run up until the Bears game. Also, Rodney played a huge part on the D when he was on the field. Keep min mind we will have neither for the playoffs.

    It's actually quite amazing. We come into the playoffs with both of our starting safeties on the IR (until Rodney proves he will be back) as well as our starting ILB out. Still, we come into the playoffs with one of the best D's.
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