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    How does one "proceed" someone else? If you mean "precede", those would be the ones who come before you. Do you mean those who will come after you? I just want to know what this means.

    For Foggy: I love the newly found religion of fiscal conservatism among all Conservatives, worldwide.

    He could easily be talking about the United States, now, particularly in his depiction of "spreading around the blame." Yes we are in a global shlitzstorm, but it's all wrapped around the Wall Street collapse, and before you start with the CRA bullcrap, which has been debunked time and again, it's the idiotic "market knows all" psuedo-wisdom of the last 30 years that led to that one. What's more, you know that's the case, because you've been unable to refute it lo these many months. You just keep chanting the magical formula "CRA, CRA," when most CRA loans were not subprime.

    Every American child is born in exactly the same condition as the English child your Conservative MEP is talking about -- the consequence, at this juncture, of George W. Bush's doubling of the national debt, and final touches on the ruination of the nation's economy. There's a reason they called the period 2002-2005 the "recovery without jobs." All we've done is reset the value of the whole shebang to where it was before we inflated it with smoke and mirrors. Surprise surprise.

    At any rate -- and that phrase will soon strike the more astute here as somewhat ironic -- we're well into the cleanup period now, and, rosy-glasses optimist that I am, I believe we'll be in a recovery (a real recovery) by 2010. The trouble is (for those on fixed incomes, and our always-so-pitied rich and upper middle class,) we're going to be looking at a good deal of inflation. No Zimbabwean hyperinflation, Shiffites be damned, but a pretty hefty rate nonetheless.

    For those with savings, a bite in the bag. For those with long positions on precious metals, somewhat less so. For those with debt -- read, most of this country -- a Godsend, but one that will require a lot of brown bag lunches and skipped vacations for a few years.

    Thanks for a great video of a proper right-wing attack dog. He was good, and extremely entertaining.

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    PFiV thanks, for noticing that.
     
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    But then again, maybe not. :rolleyes:
     
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    Hello, PF, anybody home???


    W certainly did increase the national debt, but the question is: WHY?? Bush went to war. No, make that 2 wars, as a reaction to 9/11. Hello??

    Was he right in doing it? No, he was not, and I've said so from the start. He had a lot of world-wide compassion after 9/11 and he could have/should have used that platform to create a world peace initiative that nobody could have really doubted or questioned. He could have been a genuinely "new" kind of 21st century world leader by calling a world assembly to work out ways of peaceful reconciliation and future good will for all. Instead, he squandered that opportunity and reverted back to a World War II mentality. He threw it all away by seeking revenge. Tragic, tragic waste of a God-given opportunity lost.

    OK, now fast forward to today: the Dem-left has seized power in the wake of the moral ineptitude of Bush's failure to seize the opportunity to unquestionably claim the high moral ground that was waiting to be claimed by the USA. So, what do the Dem-lefts do??? They are simply going back to their traditional old playbook: "Pay me the money". "Gimme, gimme, gimme. YOU OWE ME." "I don't gots to work 'cause I'm this or that...." Etc, etc, etc. It's a feeding frenzy of spend, spend, spend. Spend OPM, other peoples' money. Another day older and deeper in debt.

    So now you got a group in 1600 Pennsylvania Ave who say: "We've got to spend our way out of this mess." Say :wha: ????

    We're going to "spend" WHAT??? The only thing we have to spend is money we BORROW from the Chinese. We are now TRILLIONS in debt to the Chinese. And here's the news on that: the difference between the Chinese and Fannie Mae is that China is not going to just claim "uh-oh, er-r-r, we're out of dough. Sorry!! " No, no, no: when we default on loans to the Chinese they are going to demand an arm and a leg, literally. They will lobby the rest of the world and accuse the US of being a "dead beat dad" on their un-repaid loans. They will claim they are the heirs to the moral high ground, due to the "negligence" of the USA to re-pay her debts.

    How's this scenario so far???? You like it??? The U.S. is now TRILLIONS in debt to China. You point to Bush; I go to the beginning, the CRA. At this point that stuff is academic. A blame game. What counts from now is realizing we're in an economic war that we cannot afford to lose because the future leadership of the world will be decided by what we do right now.

    Propping up utterly failed businesses is suicide by a thousand cuts: you don't see the effects immediately, but they sure do manifest down the line. When the repo men show up.

    Obama & Co. better take a steely-eyed look at the next 20, 30, 40 years. They need to listen to people like Peter Schiff, people who are gounded in reality. If they continue to play politics with the economy by bailing out their buddies in Big Business, they are condemning us all to servitude under China.


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    So does rampant speculation.
     
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    Nice conservative rant. Gordo just laughed it off. It was pretty cutting though. The kinda response Jindal should have made. :)
     
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    You're right on all counts. Jindal could have made a difference -anyone could have, but that wouldn't be in the best interest of the huge campaign contributors that the automakers, construction interests and the money-changers on Wall Street are and always have been. Like Britain, our country has been run by corporate interests through their government since the Industrial Revolution in a way the Founders could not have imagined.

    Simple-minded people want to blame the troubles of our so-called democracy on things like race, immigrants, socialism, sex and drugs. All the while the corporate pigs who make billions doing, building and creating NOTHING laugh out loud in our face while their drones in government do their bidding.

    I wonder what it will take for people to wake up.
     
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    Probably nothing sadly.

    If you speak well enough, you will be able to lead the flock willingly to the gas chamber, or to the vats of kool aid.
     

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