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  1. IcyPatriot

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    The jury is still out on Obama ... it could remain out for several years IMO. In the immediate future I am amzed at the reactions lately of some media people to who Obama has appeared friendly and/or cordial.

    I digress here ... since when are world leaders warm and fuzzy people? Since when are they elected in their countries to have the needs of other countries at the tops of their list. Many world leaders are self serving political power mongers ... we have them here also. Many of these people would not have been allowed to date your daughter when they were younger. Not to say they are bad people ... but warm, fuzzy and honest are not how they became world leaders is it?

    So what exactly is Obama doing lately? He's doing the job he was elected to do. He's our President ... our mouthpiece to the world via their leadership. He's not much different than them in the power craving department but he's at least better than most of them in the human decency area. Some of what he will do to protect our country and our interests he would never have even considered as a US citizen. He will protect the country .. perhaps better or maybe slightly not as much, we will see in a few years thus the jury will remain out for 2-4 years.

    He's making friends, sleeping with the fishes, keeping his friends close and his enemies closer ... all of that and more. It's what every President should do. Is Hugo Chavez really a bad person compared to Dodd, or Reid. How about Karl Rove or Donald Rumsfeld is he worse than them? I'm not crazy about Hugo or Ortega but I bet they would at least read the documents they sign ... if you get my drift.

    Let's cut Barack some slack here ... he may not be perfect but he's trying to create discourse ... it's what every President should have been trying to do in their term also. The media will report on the fluff, hopefully there will be some substance born of renewed and different relations with other countries. There's much to cover on this topic ... but I have bloviated enough I leave the floor to the membership at large.
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    Not to mention he has a sense of humor. His gift of an IPod to Queen Elizabeth II. Not to be outdone, the jokester queen gave Obama a portrait of herself and her husband. I'm sure Obama has that hanging over his fireplace.
    Bottom line, Obama is shaking things up like we have never seen before. He's got a perfect window to give Washington a new perspective as his major opposition is totally dysfunctional. Members here may bash all they want, but he's having his way and it's going to be that way for a while.
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    That's her traditional gift, nothing new there.

    Obama - blah - we'll look back at these years in horror.
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    I agree with OP: the jury's still out. As far as *my* vote in the jury deliberation room is considered.

    As I have felt all along Obama is showing a very different, much more approachable representative of America to the rest of the world, and there is NOTHING wrong with that, imho. The time of America's image as the the Pat Garrett tracking down Billy the Kid should be over by now. We need to cultivate a more personable, friendlier, warm-hearted image to the rest of the world. Of course, that needs to be genuine, too, not fake. I give Obama high marks on that so far.

    Now, he also needs to keep a zero-tolerance policy on the trickery and gamesmanship that other nations are playing, knowing that there are other nations who would like nothing less than to replace the US as "the one super-power in the world".

    Caveat emptor.


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    ...........:eek: :rocker:
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    Guess I'm not such a "bad" guy, after all.

    Anywho, it's just common sense. I've always felt something good about Obama; but alas, "feelings" alone are not enough.


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    Lets not get carried away Fog....
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    I agree the jury is still out and will be for a while, he has weathered unrelentless & brutal attacks from the press and right wing extreme radio, but has remained on his course.. See the whole issue of accepting a book from Chavez, was he supposed to insult him and say I don't want this trash??.. he was being polite. It is a book, pretty confident it will not be life shattering. I suspect he will make some mistakes, as far as he relations with other countries this is somewhat better as we have to change our image.

    What will come of it is not known, but it is difficult to be a superpower when we are alone and always conflictual.. the outreach to Ortega, Chavez and Castro are all superficial at thsi point. But these gestures do them more harm, as we have been portrayed as the evil empire..

    Nothing may come of it, but at least we are not turning our backs and being rude, that does not usually accomplish a whole bunch. The same with embargos, the Cuba thing has been going on since I was a kid, not sure the results as Castro and his inner circle seem to be doing ok.. women and children suffer most. If we normalize relationships with Cuba there could be tremendous economic opportunity for our country.. we have normalized relationships with other countries who have committed far more human rights atrocities than they have, see China.
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    I love his little ears "gush fawn slobber slurp"

    All the girls over at the NY Times have wet dreams over him, Maureen Dowd said she "dreamed of taking a shower with him" she said when she watches him give one of his wonderful speeches she likes to look at his Cheeks, they puff up like little "birdie breasts" she claimed that when Messiah gave his State Of The Union speech that she had 11 straight Orgasms, Chris Matthews said he had 3.

    "mommy"
    "yes dear"
    "is that mickey mouse over there playing with that doggie"
    "no dear that's the president"
    "oh"

    :bricks:
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    :D .......... Aw-w-w, you know it's true.


    :singing:


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    Well then, at least we're used to doing that. ;)
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    By 'we' you must mean you and the other 5 Republicans that will be all that's left of the GOP by the time Obama's done fixing the country, right?

    Obama's greatest legacy will be how guys like Lincoln Chafee end up being the extreme right wing in the USA and guys like Bernie Sanders end up being perceived as slightly left of center. I can see how that would be horrible for you.
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    I was actually referring to the huge bill that Obama is leaving us with, I don't think people have come to grips with the enormous deficit that Obama has created - it's like Bush's deficit (which wasn't good) on steroids. I don't like a lot of other things about Obama and I think he's a liar but the spending is the sh!t in the punchbowl.
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    hilarious......so NOW its difficult being a superpower??? WTF were you with that quote when bush was president........fricking apologist......

    its actually quite easy to be a suck-up
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    Intelligent well thought out response.. would not expect you to understand any of this.. be content with you beliefs.. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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    yeah, right.........the prior could do no right and the current can do no wrong....is that how it works?
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    Never said any of that, but that is the problem that you believe what you want no matter what.. it is pretty obvious all that your beloved George did, was not successful.. try something different.
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    my beloved george??????? since when?

    moron
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    Nothing left to do now but sit back and watch, Obama is what 69 million people wanted and now they've got him the country will have to live with him, people like me don't have to like him but he is our president.

    Remember:
    There were also 62 million people who didn't want him and should he really go nuts with his Liberal Socialist Sh!t the American people wiil not stand still for it no matter how hard Jon Stewart or Matthews slobber over him (the tea party's will grow) America has revolted before and they are very capable of doing so again.

    Pray that our new socialist leader doesn't make it to easy for our enemy to strike again because they are waiting and watching, patiently.

    LIVE WITH IT AMERICA YOU ELECTED HIM
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    Namecalling is a sure sign of someone who has no substantive comeback to write.

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