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    In a potential Super Bowl matchup, does anyone feel as if the Saints would be a tougher team to beat than the Packers? Both teams have great offenses with very suspect defense, but against our D i just feel the Saints offense would be more explosive.

    They are arguably more balanced than the Packers thanks to their running game, and with this years Super Bowl being in a dome I have no doubt they would blow the roof off our defense. I know our O is capable of doing it to them as well, but in a track meet I dont like our chances of keeping up as much as I do against the Pack.

    Thoughts or am I just overreacting to one big game by New Orleans?

    Just for the record, i do think the Pats can beat either team if our offense is clicking, I'm just talking about the matchup itself.
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    Re: In a potential Super Bowl matchup..

    Our offense if the last of my worries if we get to SB and play Pack or Saints..the way our D is..the other team will get 30+
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    Re: In a potential Super Bowl matchup..

    Brees is a Patriots killer. I'd rather roll the dice with Green Bay and ruin their perfect season. ;)
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    Re: In a potential Super Bowl matchup..

    I personally think the Saints are the better team. If Rodgers has a bad game I don't see the rest of the team being able to pick up the slack. I don't think the Saints are THAT much better, but if Brees has a bad day I believe they are better equipped to compensate.

    If neither QB has a bad day I think NO can play ball-control better and keep the ball away from Rodgers. I think GB's type of offense may be at a home field disadvantage, the Saints are better equipped to play a game in GB than GB might be.

    I do think this will be the NFC championship game and I am predicting the Saints return to the SB over the Pack.


    And you trust the Packers or Saints defense to do any better against our offense?
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    Re: In a potential Super Bowl matchup..

    i think you'd be able to get to brees easier

    he's not as mobile as rodgers

    but either team would be a hell of a chore
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    I'd like to win a playoff game this year. I think we're a long way from even contemplating a SB match up.
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    Re: In a potential Super Bowl matchup..

    The playoffs and if possibly the superbowl can only be won if we have possession with a lead and it is 2mins on the clock.
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    Niners or Cowboys when playing well would beat both. The Cowboys may be the best team in the NFC if Romo is playing well.
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    Re: In a potential Super Bowl matchup..

    Am I missing the humor here?
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    Yeah, Green Bay and NO's defenses. Pretty funny if you ask me, neither can stop a nose bleed.

    Edit: obviously the Packers are the best team in the NFL right now, what I should have said is the Cowboys can beat anybody when Romo is playing well and I wouldn't be surprised to see either them or the Niners in the Superbowl depending upon the QB play of both.
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    Re: In a potential Super Bowl matchup..

    Last time Brees played the Pats he had as many touchdowns (5) as he did incompletions! I'd prefer Green Bay
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    Re: In a potential Super Bowl matchup..

    Interesting. Even if Dallas's defense is playing well I still don't see them beating Green Bay or NO.
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    Re: In a potential Super Bowl matchup..

    I think I understand what the poster that is speaking well of Dallas intends to say. I seems like they have a solid roster BUT Romo (and to a smaller extent Coach Garret) is a weak link.
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    Anyways right now I do not like our chances against Brees or Rodgers. The defense would need to pull off some miracles. In fact back up a step or two and ask if we can beat Pittsburgh or Baltimore. I suppose if Tom Brady gets red hot anything can happen.
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    Re: In a potential Super Bowl matchup..

    That is something to consider, but i wouldn't make that the sole consideration. The two rosters have had probably 30% turnover since then - some good, some bad for both teams. On top of that you're basing your choice on one game, one where the Saints were clicking on all cylinders en route to a championship, while Brady was less than 100% coming off surgery.

    The 2011 Saints, 2011 Packers, and 2011 Patriots are all significantly different than they were in 2009.
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    i believe our defense would be able to slow down either brees or aaron

    the problem i see in a SB matchup with either though is not our defense, it will give up its share of points high 20's to mid 30's to either team, no matter what we do

    so ill take the opposing defense that i feel cant contain the patriots offense, and i believe that is the saints....GB actually has a pass rush, but NO does not
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    Re: In a potential Super Bowl matchup..

    actually the packers D may have just needed to get in sync

    you saw that with some of your past pats defenses who needed like half a season to get on the same page
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    Re: In a potential Super Bowl matchup..

    the saints only have 3 fewer sacks, but they do have 16 fewer ints than GB, and we know pressure creates ints at times, so you are probably correct
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    I do, Dallas has weapons on offense to put up points and the best passrusher in the game having his best season to date. We will see how they play in december but if they start heating up, I see them representing the NFC in the superbowl. The niners defense is for real and the only team that truly matches up well against them when they're playing well is Dallas because they actually have a good enough defense (like the Ravens) and Alex smith isn't a world beater.
    Not seeing the connection. Defenses in theory should get better as the season goes on and the game tapes stack up but I don't think they'res been a drastic turn around from the Patriots defenses in any of the championship seasons. Granted the Packers don't need a drastic turn around with the way their offense is playing, look at the way NO won their superbowl.
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    I'd much rather play the packers then saints....I think we have a better chance stoppin Rodgers then we do Brees. They are loaded at every single offensive position depth everywhere. Same for the packers but has Rodgers played belichick before?
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    I always like to think of if you played a team at their best, what are your chances.
    During PrimeTime GB has shown they can get the win, but its never very decisive. Plus I don't think they had the best opponents last year, good teams had injuries and others just misfired and lost. Im not really impressed with beating the Bears and Steelers to win the SB, they have 2 of the worst OL in the NFL. I mean if they had to face NO healthy, or the Patriots in the SB last year. I don't think they would have won both games. But .. anyway.. Steelers had 3 turn overs, and they barely won by 6pts, and they beat the eagles because of a missed easy field goal. They won their games and deserve it but Im not really impressed by what they faced and how they won.

    NO plays really well in PrimeTime , more so than in usual games. It might take us a few quarters to get started. lol, I remember some saying "How did we lose the theses frauds" in the 2nd quarter of the Colts SB in forum, lol, but the offense eventually will put the gas pedal down and do what it is capable of. I think most don't realize though, the Saints haven't won SB's,but our boys our coming very close to being the best offensive unit, consistently as a team, in NFL history, so we have a lot of experience playing at a high level.

    .. and we lost to the Rams, lol

    Then their are players. Brees is just as good as Rogers , and just as mobile, but he does not have to be mobile, our OL is better and he has more targets than Rogers so rarely has to run.

    I don't think Finley is a better TE than Graham, I think Gronk is. I think Jenkins and Colston might be even. Driver is better than Henderson, but he's not better than Moore or Meachum. Moore puts up close to Welker #'s and Meachum is probably better than Colston. Saints have so much depth on offense is really silly.

    Starks is better than Ingram right now, but is not better than Thomas, Sproles, or even Ivory.

    Both GB and NO had great defenses last year. They were #2nd and Saints were #7. Both defenses are struggling this year.

    The way I see it. NE should want to play and beat the best team, then they have bragging rights and no one can say they didn't earn it. But if they want the team they have a better chance of beating, and don't care about having a good time with good fans,lol :) Then you want the Packers.

    Rogers might show up and will play ok. You know Brees will show.
    Patriots probably can't break the Saints OL, and that will leave Brees time, but you can break Green Bays OL :) , heck we did, without smith,lol.

    Green Bay has no run game, and that makes you one dimensional , and unable to control the clock, like in their SB game. You really only have to get lucky or play well and stop the pass. Saints have a great run game, but worse is they have sproles. Who is going to cover sproles and our receivers ? Saints are better on offense than in 2009, I think.

    I think Brady would torch both defenses right now. So, if you face either, it will probably be a shoot out, but Saints can control the clock with the run game, and you know payton will do that, and plan for a way to gain a possession. I wouldn't put it past Sean Payton to onside kick if we loses the beginning coin toss. He wouldn't want Brady on the field.

    I don't think the Patriots defense can stop the Saints offense , when they are at their best. The running game, OL, WR's, smart QB, is just to much to cover even for a #1 defense. And we can't stop yours either,lol.
    But even if GB plays their best game, and you do, I think your a better team. I think NE and NO are pretty even. We might have more weapons, but you have a better QB, and coach.hope I said that right, was try to articulate my thoughts on a lot of areas.
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    Re: In a potential Super Bowl matchup..

    you can make the case that GB would have beat NE in a sb

    GB played NE right to the edge with a backup qb , in NE last season


    if you want to talk not impressive, it's losing to the seahawks in the opening round of the playoffs

    or losing to the rams...a team GB beat by 3 tds just 2 weeks before they beat the saints
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    oh and brees isn't as mobile as rodgers

    don't be ridiculous lol
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    maybe brees is not quite as mobile as Rodgers, but he CAN, and WILL move out of the pocket, and CONTINUE a play effectively

    if they face BB, ill take the younger more inexperienced QB, and at this point its Aaron

    ppl who say if he has a bad game the packers lose are correct, he amazingly has not really had one this season, but itll come, and packers fans better hope its not in the playoffs

    brees though, the guy is a gamer, hes just a tiny notch below brady, and i still remember what he did to us last time we played.....we may as well not have even fielded a defense (and on some plays it looked like exactly that had happened)

    but if GB plays NO in the NFC champ, and then the Pats in the SB, and win both, they will without a doubt deserve it....they wont though

    the Pack will not reach the SB
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    I don't think so. Your talking about a different game, not a playoff or SB where Brady is very clutch.
    Seahawks was already explained, we lost all RB's and TE on IR,colston got hurt, and geer broke his arm and still played. GB would have destroyed us if we made it that far. And Brees still pt up enough points to win. Defense couldn't deal with the injuries.

    no excuse for the Rams game, we just sucked.
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    yeah he is, he's just not forced to run as much as rogers because of their bad OL. Lets see rogers out juke a safety.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZqqNeADV7Y

    just becauses Rogers OL is not good and he's forced to run game to game to game, doesn't mean everyone can't do it.
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    what?......lol
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    brees is not as mobile as rodgers........
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    sure he is but this is going nowhere,lol
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    Ummm, what? Rodgers "might" show up and play ok? Rodgers has been by far the most consistent QB in the league this year. His "off game" against TB was one that most QBs would consider a very good day and he would have had 3 TDs vs the Lions if 2 of his passes right into the hands of his receivers in the end zone had been caught. Rodgers has been nothing but clutch.

    NO is a great team and gaining a lot of momentum. A GB-NO playoff game is the one we are all hoping and waiting for, but come on, some of your comments about Rodgers and the Packers just not in the ballpark. Rodgers has not been tested in the 4th Quarter because he hasn't HAD to be tested. On the other hand, both Rodgers and the Packers have regularly faced teams that came out firing against the SB champions and they have shown that they have amazing poise. They don't panic, they make a few adjustments and before long they're 10 points ahead.

    NE, NO and GB really are the teams with the best shot at the SB IMO. Ravens and 9ers? Great defenses but far too inconsistent or weak on offense. Steelers? maybe. Texans? Hard to pick them without Schaub.
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