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  1. Rob0729

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    1.) We may have seen Cassel take his game to the next level. I am not sure if he was that good or the Jets were that bad.
    2.) Brilliant second half adjustments by both coordinators. Too bad the defense couldn't hold up the entire second half and there were too many mental mistakes in the first half. McDaniels and his staff get extra credit for totally neutralizing Kris Jenkins for most of the second half.
    3.) Mental mistakes are killing this team. Watson holds onto the ball, the Pats probably win in regulation. They might have even scored on that bad snap drive. Gaffney should have held onto the ball, but it wasn't nearly as bad of a drop as two weeks ago.
    4.) The emergence of the young players on defense is astounding. They need to work on their mental mistakes and coverages on certain plays, but I think we got some keepers at ILB and in the secondary.
    5.) Too bad we didn't pull this one off. Looking at the Jets' sidelines, if they lost it would have been one that haunts them for a while. It was quite clear they got too hyped up in the first half that they nearly fell completely apart in the second half when things started to go against them. I have been hard on Favre this year, but I give him credit for holding the offense together.
    6.) We face a tough battle for the division, but I am still pretty encouraged in a loss. I think the Pats have a good young core on defense for the rest of this year and in the future. I still think the Pats still have a shot for the division although it is that much harder now.
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    and 7.) Dont watch, hear, or read anything from any sports journalist outside of the few that are good in New England until the Miami game.
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    7) Damn good advice!
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    :agree: Great effort,incredible comeback, but those mistakes haunted. Even with all that there was some really really good stuff from our guys. Cassel, Mayo, Guyton,Woods, Big Sey had a couple of monster stops...good half time adjustments. Mistakes, and an "iffy call" or two.:rolleyes:
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    here is my immediate thought:

    am I the only one who wouldve been less upset if we would have lost the game by missing a 2 point conversion at the end?
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    I ain't with you there. You bring the game into overtime in that situation especially with the division lead on the line.
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    To loose by 1 point would have been worse.....to loose by a field goal in OT is at least respectable.....
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    Maybe if you were on the road then you would go for it but being at home kicking the PAT was the right call
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    I'm with you. Anytime Favre was unleashed, we couldn't stop him and Cotchery. 2 pt conversion, at least we keep the end of the game in our own control, not depending on a coin toss. IMO, BB needs to trust Cassel even more.
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    Um, no. Our defense stinks and is decimated. Go for the win at home.
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    Cassel scoring in the red zone when it counted, and coming up with the 2 point conversion, he whined about PI, but other then that I give this guy O player of the week.

    Pats D missing a lot of starters, I was impressed with all of the young guys that filled in, and even more impressed with the heart they played with.

    Good Pat coaching/game plan adjustments at half.

    Brett and Ty,,,,,, I was impressed.
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    The defense bashing thread is up there :rolleyes:
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    Our defense does not suck. They played a superb second half, especially when taking into consideration all the injuries they suffered. The 3rd and 15 play was absolutely inexcusable, but barring that, they made a lot of plays against the strong Jets offense in this game that will be forgotten by the loss.
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    I wanted them to go for 2. The way the D was gassed on the Jets last drive, I knew whoever won the coin toss was probably going to win, so why go with 50/50 chance. You have a better shot at 2, esp. with all that momentum. Oh well.

    Hindsight ...

    As for the OP, I think #3:

    ... is the biggest issue. This team is not good enough to overcome multiple bonehead plays. One is possible; but two, way too much. And just forget three ...

    BTW, the way he drops passes and/or runs route one yard shy of the first down marker (added bonus -- he'll also fumble!), my new nickname for Ben Watson is The Drive Killer.
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    Brett did good. Ty? You're joking, right? He helped us almost get that back. Or is that what was impressive? His double-agentness?

    Any congrats. Enjoy it a lot. 7-9 is a real step up. ;)
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    #12 Jersey

    Mayo is a beast! So is Gholston on IR or something, I don't really keep up with Jets news.

    Good effort by Cassel. The LB corps looks promising for the future with Mayo, Woods, and Guyton.

    Pats just made more mistakes this game and lost. Too many FGs in the 1st half and blown chances in the 3rd quarter.

    The Vrable call at the end was bogus (but wouldn't have matter, I think Pats would have settled for FG at the end to tie). And the refs missed a grounding call in the 1st half on Favre. I did not see a tip on the one replay they showed.

    Hopefully they can get back on track next week!
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    Nope. I feel the same way.
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    Giving up a 1st down in OT on a 3rd and 15 deserves little 'respect.' I am a bit perturbed...but will feel much better after beating Miami.
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    I think Brett played good when it counted and Ty played poorly when it counted. As Collinsworth pointed out, Law played well when he could bump Moss at the line of scrimmage and he knew he was getting the double team over the top. Law fell apart when covering Gaffney and on the final play in regulation. Brett was inconsistent, but did lead the team on two crucial drives at the end of the game.
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    Bump....

    And remember.....Just say no to ESPN.....
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    Gunnails...don't even think about deserting this board.I hate the Jets, theri fans suck...blah blah blah...you thought the Jets would win by three ..intelligent breakdown. You were right...props. I don't like Jets fans who blabber Patriot hate out of low intelligence analysis. Tonight I finally realized BB IS agenius and Cassel was a better pick than Palmer and the other pretty boy. Heart gut and, 4 seconds left, the tying TD...by a rook who never played. This why BB drafted him and refused to bow to all the preseason flack.. the KID has it...what all the great QB's have,,,ice in the veins in the highest position. Noway this kid is doing this off preseason. One thing the Pats prize is a psychological strength to perform under pressure...Brady showed, Drewpy always cracked. Cassel has bad touch on those long sideline aptterns...Moss was an easy TD tonight...Christ, Brady never threw more than fiftenn yards when he broke in...but 4 seconds left? down seven? Think SF.Cards....Cassel showed me tonight...THAT'S a QB's best asset..make the play under the ultimate pressure. No wonder Pioli and BB scoffed at all the cries of doom and gloom this summer..sure he looked ordinary his first game, held the ball too long, didn't move up into the pocket...blah blash blah...well, it's freaking a few week s later, he's moving perfectly in the pocket, using the exact right times to run, hje's qiock...and when the game and everyone wayching is thinking oh my god what will Cassel do....yeah, perfect pass to Moss..tie game we lose on a coin flip...and Matt still has a ton of work to get his long fly paterns timng down...but this kid id the real deal..tremendous scouting development and confidence in the face of vicious media pressure.

    BTW we hold the points tiebreaker on the Jets...Miami is the scary game since they destroyed us. Brady always plays horrible there. If Cassel plays mistake free, with Morris back, and Warren and Mayo seeing that wacky special offense a second timeall we need is Woods to protect the edge and rush Penningto through the gaps..if Cassel doesn't ahe Beady disease will vould strangle them..we better anyway or it's draft talk time
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    #50 Jersey

    My first immediate thought is how the hell can the Refs blow so many calls and sleep at night without feeling guilty?

    My second thought is that, the Pats are going to terrorize opposing teams should they get to the play-offs.

    OH. and where the hell was the "Law Firm?" Seriously. The Pats game plan was pretty flawed when it came to the running game, other than the one play that the Jets kept falling for that allowed Cassel 9-15 yards per run.

    Also, where the hell was the motion by Welker and Moss? Moss has had some of his best catches running slants or ins underneath. Also, had they swapped Watson for Moss on the Middle out patterns, Randy probably would have had several of those taht Watson didn't get to.
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    Here's my thoughts.

    MangIdiot needed a coin flip going his way to beat the Patriots 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers.

    The Jets needed not only a win, but a convincing win. They didn't get it, and MangIdiot's job is still very much on the line.

    I see the Jets having significantly LESS confidence in themselves and their coach following this game.

    I see the Patriots having signficantly MORE confidence in themselves and their coach to overcome a signficant deficit.

    If the coin lands heads we're celebrating a major win today.
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    #50 Jersey

    How could you be impressed by Brett and Ty Law. They were pedestrian at best. Law "held Moss in check" because he only had to worry about the underneath and was basically mauling him at that line.

    Favre wasn't all that impressive, unless you consider him disappearing for most of 2 quarters to be impressive.
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    Yeah I can see the players on the Jets team asking themselves.....well a win is a win....but we almost lost to the Pats with all of their injuries.....

    Imagine if you will, if the tables were turned and the Jets had all of the injuries we had....and we were going into last nights game with the same records.....and we almost loose to them.....

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    I was impressed that Law even made the field, he was able to contribute, I never thought after being on the team for only less then a week that he would. He was in shape also.

    Favre,,, no way we win this game with Lion Heart, Favre got it done.

    I am a happy man today, and my dog has a belly ache from all the treats.:)

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    Well, somebody doesn't get it. :confused:
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