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  1. Harry Boy

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    Does anybody hear the voices of "The Good Ones" in the past two months those SMELLY BASTARDS have Stoned, Lashed, Hung People and God only knows what the blood thirsty animals have done that we don't know about now the fanatical pigs are jailing a women over a lousy Teddy Bear, you starry eyed do-gooders better stay the hell away from these people you should stay home and slobber over America's winos, we won't stone you.

    SPEAK UP GOOD ONES or are you afraid of having your throat slit.

    You liberals that are always trashing Jesus and his father, what do think of Mohammad, would any of you have the balls to put his statue in a bottle of p!ss.

    SPEAK UP GOOD ONES, GO ON THE TODAY SHOW AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF "TEDDY BEAR"

    You thought Jerry Falwell was bad wait until you see what these Savages do when they take the UK over, the Queen Mum will never know what hit her, they'll drag Princess Camilla Bowels out into Trafalga Square and Stone the sh!t out of her.

    I walk In The Garden Alone
    While The Dew Is Still On The Roses

    God Bless The Good Ones

    Todays News
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...in_article_id=497490&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490

    Go get em President Bush
     
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    I saw a piece on BBC about a week ago. One reporter was traveling with a U.S. platoon doing security duty for transport tractors (basically, that's "riding shot gun" for a small convoy of trucks when these trucks are moving supplies around.) This was in the Baghdad area.

    So the convoy does their thing, riding some 20 Km. to the depot, and sure enough, they get hit by an IED. Blows shrapnel into one of the security Hummers, no injuries, due to good armor. They spy a lone figure go running off into the night.

    On the way back, same thing. Only this time it was some small arms fire hitting them from about 100 meters out. Too dark and not enough troups to go after the perps, so they just return to home base.

    Next day the platoon leader gets green lighted to go back and find the perp(s). They go to the village closest to where the two attacks came from. They round up all the men under 60, blindfold them and put on plastic cuffs, then start asking them questions. But it's through an interpreter, so it is difficult to pick up tell-tale nuances of the liar(s), so it is a wash. No firm discoveries. Thus, mission failed... or so it seemed.

    Then, as they are about to leave, the village head man tells the U.S. platoon leader that there is one guy in the group of detainees who is not from the village, a visitor from .. he was not sure from where. So he tells the US where this guy lives, but only under the strictest of secrecy. Because if it gets out that he ratted out this terrorist, he is probably toast. He does it anyway. The perp gets bagged, and one less bad guy out on the street.

    So, you can't say they're *all* bad. Some are putting their azzes on the line, all the way.



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    You do realize that equivalent crimes were committed in the name of Jesus up until at least the 19th century? You do realize the KKK was a religious group? You do realize that Jim Jones and David Koresh considered themselves Christian? You do realize that Hitler considered himself a Catholic, that Stalin studied for the Priesthood, that Franco controlled the Spanish Catholic Church, that the Anglican Church for a long time supported Apartheid. My point is not that these religions are evil, but that religions seem to adapt to the climate of their country. When our own country was founded the Puritans would surround Indian villages and set them on fire, shooting the Indians as the fleed. Did you know any of that?

    As Fog points out in his post, they are speaking up. The problem is they do not really like the Americans a whole lot more than the terrorists because we both have done them great harm.

    We liberals love Jesus. He was a Jesus. You righties have perverted him into some sort of violent, hateful monster:

    http://www.jesusisaliberal.org/

    Peacemaking, not War Making: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. [Matthew 5:9] Resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. [Matthew 5:39] I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute you; [Matthew 5:44]

    The Death Penalty: Thou shalt not kill [Matthew 5:21]

    Crime and Punishment: If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to cast a stone at her. [John 8:7] Do not judge, lest you too be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. [Matthew 7:1 & 2.]

    Justice: Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. [Matthew 5:6] Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy [Matthew 5:7] But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. [Matthew 6:15]

    Corporate Greed and the Religion of Wealth: In the temple courts [Jesus] found men selling cattle, sheep and doves and other sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. [John 2:14 & 15.] Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions. [Luke 12.15.] Truly, I say unto you, it will
    be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. [Matthew 19:23] You cannot serve both God and Money. [Matthew 6:24.]

    Paying Taxes & Separation of Church & State: Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. [Matthew 22:21]

    Community: Love your neighbor as yourself. .[Matthew 22:39] So in everything, do to others as you would have them do to you. [Matthew 7:12.] If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. [Matthew 19:21]

    Equality & Social Programs: But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just. [Luke 14:13 &14.]

    Public Prayer & Displays of Faith: And when thou pray, thou shall not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou pray, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret… [Matthew 6:6 & 7]

    Strict Enforcement of Religious Laws: If any of you has a son or a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? [Matthew 12:11] The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. [Mark 2:27.]

    Individuality & Personal Spiritual Experience: Ye are the light of the world. [Matthew 5:14]

    The west caused wars that killed close to than 100 million people in a 100 year span. (~1850-1950). We created a lot of resentment, and now we're killing more people and creating more resentment. War is not the answer, certainly not in Iraq. We will not change the hearts and minds of the angry and desperate by killing their children, destroying their homes, leaving them in poverty in the course of fighting a futile war. The issue, Harry, is, How do we fight the terrorists? War fuels them and makes them stronger. (Although now that we're working with Saddam's people, we have reduced the violence and also reduced the likelihood of a political settlement in Iraq.)
     
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    Just because imperfect, flawed human beings have been carrying Christ's message for 2000 years does not diminish the value of Christ or his message. His message was one of love, of living for the sake of others completely and totally. He loved God more than life, and gave his life freely so that the sinners who killed him would NOT be damned for eternity. Those are BIG shoes to fill, but we can always grow our feet! Indeed, we must.


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    I still can't recall in my lifetime a Christian putting a human being up in front of the whole world to see and then carve their head off screaming "Praise Jesus"

    We all know that no religion is perfect but Islam still hasn't emerged from the Stone Age.

    We also know "The Good Ones" are out there, but where, will they ever start to condem the murderers within.

    A few years back we had a drunken drugged up maniac beaten up by a few cops (Wonderful Rodney) the Christians in America went insane, we burned a city down, liberal news media people were trembling in rage as they spoke of it, Tom Brokaw almost broke into tears one night over it,
    (where are these people when human heads roll on TV)

    Now we have people stoned, flogged, gassed, hung, shot, linbs amputated and heads cut off on TV, the same people that went into hysterics over Rodney King getting a fat lip & a black eye are virtually SILENT when America's enemy slaughters human beings.

    You can support them all you want for your Hate Bush Anti American feelings but you all know that the Nation Of Islams solution to all it's problems is SWIFT DEATH, it is part of their religion.

    I don't give a f-ck what Christians did a thousand years ago I get upset at what the Muslim Religion does TODAY, cutting a screaming gurgling human beings head off and then taking pictures of it to show the world should make even the most obsessed Bush Hater disgusted.

    Christianity has plenty of skeleton's in it's closet but it can't hold a candle to todays Fanatical Murdering Savage Muslim.
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    The same way he felt about Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, and John Kennedy (all Dems, in case you didn't notice) who got the U.S. into other wars of great importance, where America's survival was under attack.

    War is the not the final solution to differences; only the heartfelt natural surrender of an "enemy" is a solution of lasting value. But sometimes a war is necessary merely to survive, in order to work out a peace where all are reconciled. After America took part in defeating Hitler's Germany, and after we defeated imperial Japan, we helped both these nations get back together again, and they both went on to become modern success stories. The very same thing is happening to Iraq; early stages, but you wait and see. In ten-twenty years -- and probably sooner -- there will be Iraqis doing things on the world stage that were impossible under the dictatorship of Saddam.


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